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    In the "strange but true" category, Republican Senator Rand Paul will be visiting Canada to have hernia surgery. This is especially interesting, since Rand is an outspoken critic of socialized medicine. In the past, he has compared socialized medicine to slavery. And, no, that comparison doesn't make any sense to me, either.

    I guess Senator Paul has seen the light, and wants to become a slave. Go figure.

    https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...da/2568200002/

    "Make America Rake Again"

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    Originally posted by reepicheep View Post
    In the "strange but true" category, Republican Senator Rand Paul will be visiting Canada to have hernia surgery. This is especially interesting, since Rand is an outspoken critic of socialized medicine. In the past, he has compared socialized medicine to slavery. And, no, that comparison doesn't make any sense to me, either.

    I guess Senator Paul has seen the light, and wants to become a slave. Go figure.

    https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...da/2568200002/
    You're just not mentioning that it also happens to be a private hospital that accepts cash payments for private care and is renouned for just-so being the best on earth at the particular surgery Paul requires? That's interesting.

    Also, your title is straight up fake news: Paul doesn't prefer Canadian healthcare: he just happens to want the best care for his particular hernia. In general (the proper way to talk about healthcare services on the governmental level) Paul doesn't like the US or Canadian systems as they are. And yes, comparing it to slavery makes perfect sense if you believe that humans have a right to charge whatever they feel like for the use of their time, but realize the government in Canada makes that impossible since they cap doctor salaries.
    Some people are educated beyond their intellect.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by reepicheep View Post
      In the "strange but true" category, Republican Senator Rand Paul will be visiting Canada to have hernia surgery. This is especially interesting, since Rand is an outspoken critic of socialized medicine. In the past, he has compared socialized medicine to slavery. And, no, that comparison doesn't make any sense to me, either.

      I guess Senator Paul has seen the light, and wants to become a slave. Go figure.

      https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...da/2568200002/
      I wonder if he had to prove to a Canadian death panel that his life had value to the international communist conspiracy before he got approved for treatment?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MartialApologist View Post
        You're just not mentioning that it also happens to be a private hospital that accepts cash payments for private care and is renouned for just-so being the best on earth at the particular surgery Paul requires? That's interesting.
        Lots of Canada's hospitals are private hospitals that are the best in the world at what they do. Why would you think otherwise???

        I'd say, since Canadians can receive service at these world class hospitals for free, that the Canadian healthcare system must be pretty good. Agreed?
        "Make America Rake Again"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Aagcobb View Post

          I wonder if he had to prove to a Canadian death panel that his life had value to the international communist conspiracy before he got approved for treatment?
          Yes, that is one of the standard admittance forms at Canadian hospitals.

          I wonder if he will be asking for political asylum while he is here.
          "Make America Rake Again"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by reepicheep View Post

            Lots of Canada's hospitals are private hospitals that are the best in the world at what they do. Why would you think otherwise???

            I'd say, since Canadians can receive service at these world class hospitals for free, that the Canadian healthcare system must be pretty good. Agreed?
            You left out the Canadianers have a cruel and painful long waiting period.



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            • #7
              Originally posted by reepicheep View Post
              In the "strange but true" category, Republican Senator Rand Paul will be visiting Canada to have hernia surgery. This is especially interesting, since Rand is an outspoken critic of socialized medicine. In the past, he has compared socialized medicine to slavery. And, no, that comparison doesn't make any sense to me, either.

              I guess Senator Paul has seen the light, and wants to become a slave. Go figure.

              https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...da/2568200002/
              Hypocrisy is a god-given right for the right-wing in America.

              Who are we to question Him, er, them?

              ps. sorry, couldn't resist the theology quip. Paul is a fruitloop, and has been for a while; it doesn't surprise me in the least that he'd say one thing and then proceed to contradict himself. It might be that right-wing conservatives in the US have been stricken with some weird mass-cognitive-dissonance thing...
              The people whining about Democrats looking to the government to solve problems are the same ones who want the government to define marriage, criminalize abortion, slow/stop legal immigration, save farmers, create jobs, etc.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by reepicheep View Post

                Lots of Canada's hospitals are private hospitals that are the best in the world at what they do. Why would you think otherwise???

                I'd say, since Canadians can receive service at these world class hospitals for free, that the Canadian healthcare system must be pretty good. Agreed?
                If by lots, you mean a few, sure. The US and Europe both have multiple hospitals that are the greatest at any particular thing. They can't all be the best by definition. Either way, the argument isn't that a socialized system can't sometimes provide the best of some particular kind of care, but that it is not the best system long-term for the general population.

                Now, first of all, you know that there is no such thing as the Canadian system, right? Each province is different. And no, I don't agree that it's all that good. It's pretty nice for general practitioner visits (so long as you have exactly 0 time for detailed chat about anything because your doctor essentially needs to get through a different patient every few minutes and rushes through). It's decent for critical emergency care as you don't have to worry about a bill after. For pretty much everything else it's mediocre at best. The provinces that allow for private hospitals can at least turn down cases they don't want to see so that they can focus on quality care for their specialty and usually get people in on a reasonable time-frame, but others are so swamped that unless you're on the verge of death already they aren't likely to see you again for at least a few months.
                Some people are educated beyond their intellect.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by America View Post
                  Hypocrisy is a god-given right for the right-wing in America.

                  Who are we to question Him, er, them?

                  ps. sorry, couldn't resist the theology quip. Paul is a fruitloop, and has been for a while; it doesn't surprise me in the least that he'd say one thing and then proceed to contradict himself. It might be that right-wing conservatives in the US have been stricken with some weird mass-cognitive-dissonance thing...
                  You realize he isn't being a hypocrite, right? Like, not at all in any fashion.
                  Some people are educated beyond their intellect.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MartialApologist View Post

                    If by lots, you mean a few, sure. The US and Europe both have multiple hospitals that are the greatest at any particular thing. They can't all be the best by definition. Either way, the argument isn't that a socialized system can't sometimes provide the best of some particular kind of care, but that it is not the best system long-term for the general population.

                    Now, first of all, you know that there is no such thing as the Canadian system, right? Each province is different. And no, I don't agree that it's all that good. It's pretty nice for general practitioner visits (so long as you have exactly 0 time for detailed chat about anything because your doctor essentially needs to get through a different patient every few minutes and rushes through). It's decent for critical emergency care as you don't have to worry about a bill after. For pretty much everything else it's mediocre at best. The provinces that allow for private hospitals can at least turn down cases they don't want to see so that they can focus on quality care for their specialty and usually get people in on a reasonable time-frame, but others are so swamped that unless you're on the verge of death already they aren't likely to see you again for at least a few months.
                    And yet for some reason Canada and all the other rich countries in the world don't want to reform their healthcare systems to enjoy the benefits of having to declare bankruptcy if they are hospitalized and can't afford health insurance. Another thing to keep in mind is that the US already spends a lot more per capita on healthcare than any other country, and we will still be doing so if we adopt Medicare for all, except a lot less of that money will go to administrative overhead.

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                    • #11
                      Trinidad, Colorado came to be known as the "sex-change capital of the United States."How many hundred Canadians traveled to Trinidad? Lutherans

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Aagcobb View Post
                        the US already spends a lot more per capita on healthcare than any other country
                        Not only that, the average life expectancy in Canada is approximately 3 years longer than in the US. Plus, Canadian life expectancy is increasing, while US life expectancy has dropped for three consecutive years.
                        "Make America Rake Again"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nouveau View Post
                          Trinidad, Colorado came to be known as the "sex-change capital of the United States."How many hundred Canadians traveled to Trinidad? Lutherans
                          . They head to Colorado for the skiing, but get so sloshed on liquid spirits, that they end up in the hospital. By the time they sober up they've paid the bill and have gone home. Then they realize they were given a sex change operation.

                          Pretty good business model.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MartialApologist View Post

                            You realize he isn't being a hypocrite, right? Like, not at all in any fashion.
                            As Rand is one of socialized medicine's biggest critics - no. I haven't realized what you're asking.
                            Last edited by America; 01-14-19, 09:55 PM.
                            The people whining about Democrats looking to the government to solve problems are the same ones who want the government to define marriage, criminalize abortion, slow/stop legal immigration, save farmers, create jobs, etc.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by reepicheep View Post
                              In the "strange but true" category, Republican Senator Rand Paul will be visiting Canada to have hernia surgery. This is especially interesting, since Rand is an outspoken critic of socialized medicine. In the past, he has compared socialized medicine to slavery. And, no, that comparison doesn't make any sense to me, either.

                              I guess Senator Paul has seen the light, and wants to become a slave. Go figure.

                              https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...da/2568200002/
                              I think it would be funny if he was stopped and turned back at the border.... or as Trump would say "boarder"
                              "Kids & Adults love Fairy Tale Ark exhibit" - Ken Ham

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