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What is the ultimate goal(s) of some in the progressive left? And of some n the lgbt?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by christdependent View Post
    That's what I find most fascinating about the we-own-all-the-words strategies of the alphabet movement in particular. They insist upon being identified in terms of what they do with their sexual parts, but boy, when we describe exactly what that is, they wish to redefine it as "love."

    The fact is, it has nothing whatsoever to do with love and everything to do with narcissism, domination, and degradation.
    Absolutely spot on !

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    • #17
      Did you ever notice how frequently the alphabet folks partner up with someone who looks just like themselves?
      "For the eyes of the LORD move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His...." 2 Chronicles 16:9 NASB

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      • #18
        Originally posted by christdependent View Post
        Did you ever notice how frequently the alphabet folks partner up with someone who looks just like themselves?
        No, I'll watch out for that.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by christdependent View Post
          That's what I find most fascinating about the we-own-all-the-words strategies of the alphabet movement in particular. They insist upon being identified in terms of what they do with their sexual parts, but boy, when we describe exactly what that is, they wish to redefine it as "love."

          The fact is, it has nothing whatsoever to do with love and everything to do with narcissism, domination, and degradation.
          Stereotyping people to promote your ideology of discrimination and marginalization.

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          • #20
            Nope. Just telling it like it is. You are the one promoting your ideology here instead of rationally addressing what I said.

            Please feel free to show the lack of truth and basic logic in this sentence:
            They insist upon being identified in terms of what they do with their sexual parts, but boy, when we describe exactly what that is, they wish to redefine it as "love."
            "For the eyes of the LORD move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His...." 2 Chronicles 16:9 NASB

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            • #21
              Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
              You need to realize that sex isnt love . People can love each other without having sex, indeed God's love is a sacrificial love and is separate from sexual intimacy, though in God's creation purposes sexual intimacy is part of love between a man and a woman.
              sexual gratification of disordered and non-functioning sexual acts is a part of the lgbt version of love. Remember L G B T are all sexual based identities.
              I never called sex love. Sex can absolutely be a means of expressing and experiencing love, but it is not love.

              I had not intention of beginning our same tired debate on this thread, though. Instead of taking a biblical approach to understanding love, I will largely attempt to define love in its purest substance rather than a dogmatic approach.

              Love is what brings disparate objects to work together in harmony on every level of existence.

              Love is gravity that keeps us planted on this earth, keeps the planets in motion around the sun and keeps the solar system in motion within our galaxy.

              Love is the magnetism that brings holds elemental particles in place, brings or repels magnets, and keeps us from passing through "solid" objects when each atom's nucleus is the scale of a fly in football arena with adjacent nuclei in the center of neighboring stadiums.

              These work in the background and appear separate until we observe the greater picture: we are but one layer of love in this reality. Just as atoms and planets are held together by forces we measure but do not understand, so we are pulled together with forces we measure but do not fully understand. This is why love completes the law. Laws are only rudimentary guides to keep us on the path of love. True love for all has no need for laws.
              I want to hear it from your lips;
              What's it worth shining for?

              Rishloo - Scissorlips

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              • #22
                Then, please explain the distinctions between the genders, which is exactly what the alphabet movement demands in terms of personal identification.
                "For the eyes of the LORD move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His...." 2 Chronicles 16:9 NASB

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by christdependent View Post
                  That's what I find most fascinating about the we-own-all-the-words strategies of the alphabet movement in particular. They insist upon being identified in terms of what they do with their sexual parts, but boy, when we describe exactly what that is, they wish to redefine it as "love."

                  The fact is, it has nothing whatsoever to do with love and everything to do with narcissism, domination, and degradation.
                  Depends on how one defines love. If it is the substance of cooperation that binds distinct entities to improve each other, a substance that has no need of laws because it inherently strives to defragment reality, then it depends on motives and outcome rather than adherence to the code of law.

                  In this way, love fulfills the law.
                  I want to hear it from your lips;
                  What's it worth shining for?

                  Rishloo - Scissorlips

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by christdependent View Post
                    Then, please explain the distinctions between the genders, which is exactly what the alphabet movement demands in terms of personal identification.
                    Are you responding to post 21?
                    I want to hear it from your lips;
                    What's it worth shining for?

                    Rishloo - Scissorlips

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by john james View Post
                      What is the ultimate goal(s) of some in the progressive left? And of some on the lgbt?
                      Fairness for all.
                      An equal playing field.
                      Civil rights protections.
                      Voting rights protections.
                      Attention to facts and science in policy-making.
                      Public safety.
                      Universal healthcare, as is provided in all other developed countries.
                      Women's reproductive rights.
                      Reality rules, Honor the truth - in memory of Chem1st.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by john james View Post

                        I think with some on the progressive left, it is power. Power to do what ever they want. Power to get gratification. Power to be happy. Power to avoid any restrictions wether scientific, biological, religious, moral, institutional, traditional, normal, moral or etc. I think with some in the lgbt it is the normanilaztion of lgbt where as everyone supports, affirms, accepts and loves the behavior. One lgbt person said he knew that same sex sexual relations with two men was disgusting to most heterosexual men. He being an activist said he wouldn't stop pushing lgbt until it was no longer disgusting to them. I think both the progressive left and the lgbt wants for everyone else to support, affirm, love and accept everything they want to do, to a certain extent, without restriction.

                        From the biblical stand point, the goal is to by pass God's will and make man's will come true and give a big we dont need you to God in the form of rebellion. Saying our happiness is more important than the purpose we were created for which is to love and obey God and give God glory .
                        You keep mentioning science and biology as though you think they back your views. Well, they do not.
                        If you think otherwise, then produce the peer-reviewed studies that support your claims.

                        The biblical standpoint has no standing in a secular society.
                        Reality rules, Honor the truth - in memory of Chem1st.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
                          You need to realize that sex isnt love . People can love each other without having sex, indeed God's love is a sacrificial love and is separate from sexual intimacy, though in God's creation purposes sexual intimacy is part of love between a man and a woman.
                          sexual gratification of disordered and non-functioning sexual acts is a part of the lgbt version of love. Remember L G B T are all sexual based identities.
                          just like heterosexuality is a sexual based identity

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by christdependent View Post
                            That's what I find most fascinating about the we-own-all-the-words strategies of the alphabet movement in particular. They insist upon being identified in terms of what they do with their sexual parts, but boy, when we describe exactly what that is, they wish to redefine it as "love."

                            The fact is, it has nothing whatsoever to do with love and everything to do with narcissism, domination, and degradation.
                            yeah racists say exactly the same thing, that non-whites aren't capable of love but only lust and other twisted actions that all revolve around physical gratification. Amazing how the language of big0try remains the same no matter how the hate is directed against

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SilverBear View Post

                              just like heterosexuality is a sexual based identity
                              That quote is an example of Brightmorningstar take a moralistic attitude towards the LGBT community he was asking me for, as though he doesn't post stuff like this all of the time.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by christdependent View Post
                                Nope. Just telling it like it is. You are the one promoting your ideology here instead of rationally addressing what I said.

                                Please feel free to show the lack of truth and basic logic in this sentence:
                                They insist upon being identified in terms of what they do with their sexual parts, but boy, when we describe exactly what that is, they wish to redefine it as "love."
                                you are the one falsely trying to identify people solely by sexual actions. quite perverted of you when you think about it

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