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    Has the people and things to prove the bad ideas of some of the progressive left/lgbt been corrupted to the point that we cant do away with their bad ideas?

    Or maybe a better question is why cant we get rid of these bad ideas quicker? Why are they continuing to exist where as its mainstream or becoming mainstream in western societies?

    please give the secular answer. Ultimately I know its spiritual and the spiritual answer.
    Last edited by john james; 07-12-19, 12:56 PM.

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    Originally posted by john james View Post
    Has the people and things to prove the bad ideas of some of the progressive left/lgbt been corrupted to the point that we cant do away with their bad ideas?

    Or maybe a better question is why cant we get rid of these bad ideas quicker? Why are they continuing to exist where as its mainstream or becoming mainstream in western societies?

    please give the secular answer. Ultimately I know its spiritual and the spiritual answer.
    Bad or just false ideas like gays are mentally ill? or that gays are diseased? or that they recruit children? or that they prevent "real" science form being done or published?

    I have no idea how these lies keep surviving. its easy enough for anyone to actually go look at the evidence themselves and show all these claims are false.

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    • #3
      It gets really hard to support the "good" idea to h@te and oppress lgbtq individuals when you find out friends, family and coworkers you care about are among them. Young people especially can't see the "good" in oppressing them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SilverBear View Post


        I have no idea how these lies keep surviving. its easy enough for anyone to actually go look at the evidence themselves and show all these claims are false.
        The bible is a PRIME example of lies that keep surviving & evolving when its easy enough for anyone to actually go look at the evidence themselves and show all these claims are false.
        Perception is awareness shaped by beliefs
        Beliefs "control" perception

        ..... Rewrite beliefs and you rewrite perceptions
        .......... Rewrite perceptions and you rewrite behaviors


        Adopting a Do Not Feed The Trolls practice.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by john james View Post
          Has the people and things to prove the bad ideas of some of the progressive left/lgbt been corrupted to the point that we cant do away with their bad ideas?

          Or maybe a better question is why cant we get rid of these bad ideas quicker? Why are they continuing to exist where as its mainstream or becoming mainstream in western societies?

          please give the secular answer. Ultimately I know its spiritual and the spiritual answer.
          This last bit appears to imply you are asking for answers you already believe are wrong. That's a dirty trick. Why the presumptive approach, John?
          I want to hear it from your lips;
          What's it worth shining for?

          Rishloo - Scissorlips

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bluemayskye View Post

            This last bit appears to imply you are asking for answers you already believe are wrong. That's a dirty trick. Why the presumptive approach, John?
            I see you can't answer the questions. Do you know why?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

              I see you can't answer the questions. Do you know why?
              Questioning why the OP assumes the answers false does not mean I cannot answer them, Nouveau. Why bother putting in the effort when he already told his audience their answers will be wrong because they are "not spiritual?"

              For example:
              What are your thoughts on transgender? Please give the dogmatic answer. Ultimately I know it is nuanced by each individual.

              See how disingenuous this is? Asking someone a question while telling them you know they are wrong will not produce fruitful discussion, IMHO.
              I want to hear it from your lips;
              What's it worth shining for?

              Rishloo - Scissorlips

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              • #8
                Originally posted by john james View Post
                Has the people and things to prove the bad ideas of some of the progressive left/lgbt been corrupted to the point that we cant do away with their bad ideas?

                Or maybe a better question is why cant we get rid of these bad ideas quicker? Why are they continuing to exist where as its mainstream or becoming mainstream in western societies?

                please give the secular answer. Ultimately I know its spiritual and the spiritual answer.
                Incoherent and semi-literate blabber.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by john james View Post
                  Has the people and things to prove the bad ideas of some of the progressive left/lgbt been corrupted to the point that we cant do away with their bad ideas?
                  You mean, of course, ideas that YOU think are bad.

                  Originally posted by john james View Post
                  Or maybe a better question is why cant we get rid of these bad ideas quicker? Why are they continuing to exist where as its mainstream or becoming mainstream in western societies?
                  Because the majority of people don't think they are bad, obviously.

                  Originally posted by john james View Post
                  please give the secular answer. Ultimately I know its spiritual and the spiritual answer.
                  No, it's not spiritual.
                  Voting is a lot like driving...D to go forward, R to go backward.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bluemayskye View Post

                    This last bit appears to imply you are asking for answers you already believe are wrong. That's a dirty trick. Why the presumptive approach, John?
                    Some Christians accept the spiritual answer because they believe the bible is God's word and God's word the bible is inerrant and infallible. The bible gives the spiritual answer. However some people dont believe in the bible or spiritual things. I know where the natural ends the supernatural begins but people who dont believe in the bible cannot get beyond the natural in the context of Christianity. So I use the language they speak in the natural/secular to discuss it in the natural that they will listen to possibly because some close off themselves once some speak in a spiritual context.

                    I also want to know what others think.

                    Also some people think that Christians dont know any thing which is a hindrance to discussing things. Im learning the secular answers to somethings like politics and lgbt. And I learn things logically too. But sometimes it doesn't matter how logically I say something or how much evidence I present.

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