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"Christianity and Homosexuality"

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  • Sorry, I haven't even stated what the bible says, so it's not possible for me to be lying about it.
    The Bible describes same sex relations are error throughout, and excludes relationships outside faithful man/woman, you were saying that was opinion, its not opinion, thatís what it says.
    Some Christians do not agree with you about what it says regarding homosexuality. That's simply fact.
    Firstly I didnít say homosexuality I said same sex relations, that is men with men instead of the natural with women. Secondly, the Bible says what it says, it has nothing to do with whether they agree with me about it, my views donít change what it says.

    Again you are ignoring the fact that other people interpret any number of passages of the bible differently to you.
    Ah now that is opinion, but you are ignoring the fact that most Christians do not see that as interpretation but denial.
    No, Christianity according to the NT and dictionary definition, believes the Bible is the word of God.
    Completely irrelevant to the fact that it is your OPINION that the bible is the word of God.
    No, my opinion doesnít change the definition of Christian as belief in the Bible as the word of God.
    It doesn't matter how many pepole agree with you,
    Correct, it doesnít matter how many people agree or deny the evidence, the evidence remains the same.
    it's still opinion.
    So it isnít opinion.

    NB it is not opinion that the rules say one cant accuse another poster of lying, thatís what the rules say. It is not opinion that the Bible describes same sex relations as error, thatís what it says.


    • Originally posted by BigBadWolf View Post
      It excludes polygamy? Concubines? Forced marriage through rape? Levirate marriage?

      Play with words all you want it doesnít change the fact a lot of Christians donít share your views

      And what it says is open to interoperation
      "open to interpretation" is the contemporary attempt to reinterpret scripture to somehow permit "committed same sex relationships." However if one were to read the Talmud, available online @ Come and see and Sacred texts, one would see that ancient Jewish scholars interpreted the texts as a prohibition against same gender sexual relations.
      C.U.L.T.S. =Contentious Unscriptural Later Theological Systems.

      ". . . Christ Jesus is shown to be Lord and God, which the heretics will not have." A Treatise Of Novatian Concerning The Trinity [A.D. 210-280]


      • Originally posted by BigBadWolf View Post
        It excludes polygamy? Concubines? Forced marriage through rape? Levirate marriage?
        Where is Levite marriage? Sorry but if you cant see what Gen 2, Matt 19, Mark 10 and Eph 5 etc says about God's purpose in creating man and woman to be in faithful union then why should I bother?

        Play with words all you want it doesn’t change the fact a lot of Christians don’t share your views
        All Christians share the same views according to what the Bible says, Christ's NT teaching also warns of false teachers who have another gospel and another jesus.

        And what it says is not open to interpretation, you cant interpret a 30mph speed limit sign as not 30mph.


        • Originally posted by BigBadWolf View Post
          The one thing we can be totally certain of is that the word homosexual does not appear in any original biblical text.
          Absolutely, which begs the question why you use it. However, men who abandon the natural relations with women, its says commit indecent acts with men which is error. (Romans 1) Men who lie with men as with women are doing what pagans do which is detestable to God.(Leviticus 18 & 20) Men who have sex with men shall not inherit the Kingdom (1 Cor 6) Because of so much sexual immorality each man should have his own wife (1 Cor 7)
          You have NOTHING to countenance men with men, not one instance that isnt condemned as error and detestable. All the lgbt does is deny what Genesis 2, Genesis 19, Leviticus 18 & 20, Matt 19, Mark 10, Eph 5, 1 Cor 6, 1 Cor 7, Romans 1, 1 Tim 1, 2 Peter 2, Jude 1, Hebrew 13, etc says whilst insisting it is Christian. And then get upset when accused of total unbelief and denial.

          Basically you are saying if people donít believe exactly what you believe then they cannot be Christians.
          No. You are basically saying that because you dont accept what the Bible says you are going to try and make out what the Bible says is just the opinion of anyone who doesn't agree with you.
          I didn't write the Bible. It says what it says.


          • Originally posted by BigBadWolf View Post
            Many Christians disagree with you. that disagreement does not mean they are not Christians
            I agree with her.

            Truth is caustic to lies. and when a truthful man reveals the truth, they are hated by liars.
            i speak from experience.
            1st Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant
            5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
            6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
            7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

            "Growing a beard Ďis a habit most natural, scriptural, manly, and beneficial."
            -Charles Spurgeon.