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Existence of extraterrestrials all around us and our need to listen to each other.

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  • Existence of extraterrestrials all around us and our need to listen to each other.

    We need to break the taboo that does not allow serious scientific research to create grounds for serious scientific studies of the presence of the flying vehicles of extraterrestrials, and their artificial structures on our moon, in order to use the outcome of such scientific research for radical improvement of our technology with the only purpose to serve the improvement of our standard of life for all our humanity of our civilization on this Earth, and to avoid, and prevent militarization of our societies, avoid politics of mob-populism, improve our social relations, in order to distinguish between like and dislike, and avoiding extreme feelings of hate and disgust, and with the end-goal achievements to prevent proxy wars, and threats of nuclear weapons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPb815-xKDQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMkR_G2Xrqg

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    First thing I would like to point out...that is the longest sentence I have ever seen. Secondly, you cannot prove the existence of extraterrestrials, just as I cannot prove they don't exist. There are only theories. Until an "alien" body is recovered and the autopsy is recorded and released to the public, there will be no proof. Even still, after the autopsy, there will still be people who do not believe. So instead of forcing your beliefs on people, perhaps give them a chance to figure it out for themselves. Thanks and God bless!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by biku View Post
      We need to break the taboo that does not allow serious scientific research to create grounds for serious scientific studies of the presence of the flying vehicles of extraterrestrials, and their artificial structures on our moon, in order to use the outcome of such scientific research for radical improvement of our technology with the only purpose to serve the improvement of our standard of life for all our humanity of our civilization on this Earth, and to avoid, and prevent militarization of our societies, avoid politics of mob-populism, improve our social relations, in order to distinguish between like and dislike, and avoiding extreme feelings of hate and disgust, and with the end-goal achievements to prevent proxy wars, and threats of nuclear weapons.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPb815-xKDQ

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMkR_G2Xrqg
      What if the aliens where actually demonic or fallen angels even the ones on the moon?

      These aliens not done anything for earth, not given the cure for diseases, have not stopped suffering at all yet they have been here for years?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Victoria_S View Post
        First thing I would like to point out...that is the longest sentence I have ever seen. ....<snip>...
        me too


        "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

        Heisenberg
        .....................

        " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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        • #5
          Originally posted by biku View Post
          We need to break the taboo that does not allow serious scientific research to create grounds for serious scientific studies....<snip>...
          From a scientific perspective it’s not similar to a cultural taboo, it’s better described by the Drake equation and the probability that sentient, intelligent, and technologically advanced lifeforms can exist in our highly inhospitable universe.

          Quick question:

          What artificial moon structures are you referencing?
          "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

          Heisenberg
          .....................

          " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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          • #6
            There are supposed to be towers on the dark side of the moon and ufos roving around the place.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JagdPanther View Post
              There are supposed to be towers on the dark side of the moon and ufos roving around the place.
              Since we have taken high resolution images of the dark side, towers and flying objects, even the unidentfied kind, would have been profound and historic.

              It would have been so profound our military industrial complex would have been called into action.

              Hmm
              "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

              Heisenberg
              .....................

              " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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              • #8
                Originally posted by biku View Post
                We need to break the taboo that does not allow serious scientific research to create grounds for serious scientific studies of the presence of the flying vehicles of extraterrestrials, and their artificial structures on our moon, in order to use the outcome of such scientific research...."
                I'd bet my bottom dollar that if aliens built artificial structures on the Moon we might just find some on the Earth. Look here instead of going 1/4 of a million miles away. Save a lot of dole!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by inertia View Post

                  Since we have taken high resolution images of the dark side, towers and flying objects, even the unidentfied kind, would have been profound and historic.

                  It would have been so profound our military industrial complex would have been called into action.

                  Hmm
                  I would suggest that you watch this video to correct your misunderstandings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE
                  Fight like a real man. Get on your knees and pray!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arkycharlie View Post

                    I would suggest that you watch this video to correct your misunderstandings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE
                    The video is not believable because he would be behind bars for discussing classified information and then displaying it on YouTube.
                    "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                    Heisenberg
                    .....................

                    " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arkycharlie View Post

                      I would suggest that you watch this video to correct your misunderstandings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE
                      Here is a high resolution image of the far side of the moon: https://www.space.com/11186-photo-si...r-orbiter.html
                      "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                      Heisenberg
                      .....................

                      " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by inertia View Post

                        The video is not believable because he would be behind bars for discussing classified information and then displaying it on YouTube.
                        You really are out of the loop here on the subject, aren't you. Why don't you watch this video of the 2001 National Press Club Event on UFO disclosure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwnU5ELcfX0. And then this one which I believe was made in 2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_-HLD21hA&t=224s And then go to Youtube and search "Dr. Steven Greer" and see what pops up for just the last year. Then, perhaps you can avoid making any more such Ill-informed statements. And just to be clear, I'm trying to do you a favor.

                        I'll give you a pass on the high resolution photos of the moon comments. If you want a more accurate understanding of your errors on that, do your own research.
                        Last edited by Arkycharlie; 08-10-18, 05:03 PM.
                        Fight like a real man. Get on your knees and pray!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Arkycharlie View Post

                          You really are out of the loop here on the subject, aren't you...<snip>.. .
                          Not at all. The aliens are silent because " life on other planets would likely be brief and become extinct very quickly. " It is known in the astrobiology community as the Gaian Bottleneck.

                          (i) extinction is the cosmic default for most life that has ever emerged

                          (ii) rocky planets need to be inhabited to remain habitable

                          Even so, the right star type must be available for life. To date, astronomers and astrophysicists have not discovered another star sufficiently like the Sun that could sustain advanced life on a conceivable planet orbiting it. It certainly is not for lack of searching. They are still looking. What's true is that our Sun’s special features make it a unique star for sustaining advanced lifeforms.

                          The requirements:

                          - Category: G2-type star

                          - temperature within 5° centigrade of the Sun’s value

                          - luminosity variation of less than 0.1%

                          - same abundance of elements heavier than helium ( a star's metalicity )

                          - the same age ( 4.566 billion years ) within 0.1 million to a million years

                          Interestingly, there is one star, namely M67-1194, that resides within a cluster of stars that is a particularly close near twin but -not- identical. It is still considered more twin-like than other near twin stars but it is about 5% richer in elements heavier than helium and about 0.5 million years younger. Also the fact that it is in close proximity to other stars in the vicinity is a problem for advanced life.

                          Only the most Sun-like stars should be SETI candidates*.

                          Originally posted by Arkycharlie View Post
                          ...<snip>..Why don't you watch this video of the 2001 National Press Club Event on UFO disclosure: ...<snip>..
                          I tried but it was way too long. Sorry. Also there are so many suspicious - invalid statements by Dr. Steven Greer including the said "ability to summon aliens", he is very hard to believe.

                          ...............

                          * References:

                          - Meléndez et al., “Remarkable Solar Twin HIP 56948.”
                          Last edited by inertia; 08-11-18, 12:53 PM.
                          "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                          Heisenberg
                          .....................

                          " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by inertia View Post

                            Not at all. The aliens are silent because " life on other planets would likely be brief and become extinct very quickly. " It is known in the astrobiology community as the Gaian Bottleneck.

                            (i) extinction is the cosmic default for most life that has ever emerged

                            (ii) rocky planets need to be inhabited to remain habitable

                            Even so, the right star type must be available for life. To date, astronomers and astrophysicists have not discovered another star sufficiently like the Sun that could sustain advanced life on a conceivable planet orbiting it. It certainly is not for lack of searching. They are still looking. What's true is that our Sun’s special features make it a unique star for sustaining advanced lifeforms.

                            The requirements:

                            - Category: G2-type star

                            - temperature within 5° centigrade of the Sun’s value

                            - luminosity variation of less than 0.1%

                            - same abundance of elements heavier than helium ( a star's metalicity )

                            - the same age ( 4.566 billion years ) within 0.1 million to a million years

                            Interestingly, there is one star, namely M67-1194, that resides within a cluster of stars that is a particularly close near twin but -not- identical. It is still considered more twin-like than other near twin stars but it is about 5% richer in elements heavier than helium and about 0.5 million years younger. Also the fact that it is in close proximity to other stars in the vicinity is a problem for advanced life.

                            Only the most Sun-like stars should be SETI candidates*.



                            I tried but it was way too long. Sorry. Also there are so many suspicious - invalid statements by Dr. Steven Greer including the said "ability to summon aliens", he is very hard to believe.

                            ...............

                            * References:

                            - Meléndez et al., “Remarkable Solar Twin HIP 56948.”

                            This is a interesting video with Carol Rosen who with Warner Von Braun, not long at all, very short.

                            https://youtu.be/WruCxsh8mfw

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JagdPanther View Post


                              This is a interesting video with Carol Rosen who with Warner Von Braun, not long at all, very short.

                              https://youtu.be/WruCxsh8mfw
                              err...aliens are real- because we need weapons in space. The appeal to ignorance combined with the slippery slope fallacy against the weaponization of space is not convincing.

                              Here is a short clip that is really plausible ( I believe it was made purposefully -not- simply for entertainment. ):

                              "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                              Heisenberg
                              .....................

                              " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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