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  • Only God decides who goes to hell

    someone told me that I'm going to hell.

    That person and we are not allowed to play at being a god and pass that judgment on other souls. Not our call.



    Thats all. ❤️
    Last edited by e v e; 07-19-17, 05:32 AM.

  • #2
    Casting stones was not recommended by Christ either.

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    • #3
      God sends no one to hell. We send ourselves there by rejecting His Son.

      It is true that we must not judge others, but if a Christian is living in habitual sin, they need to be warned that this is hurting their relationship with God.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post
        God sends no one to hell. We send ourselves there by rejecting His Son..
        What about all those who never heard the Gospel of Jesus. You can't say that they "rejected" what they did not know. This would be the vast majority of the human race that had ever lived on our planet.
        Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post
          What about all those who never heard the Gospel of Jesus. You can't say that they "rejected" what they did not know. This would be the vast majority of the human race that had ever lived on our planet.
          That has been discussed a zillion times. God said in His word that we are without excuse as He has made Himself known through the things He has created, such as nature. Every civilization has always had some form of worship because intrinsic in every man is a belief in some kind of deity. The Bible says that God has given everyone a measure of faith.

          John said that Jesus was (is) "the true light which gives light to every man coming into the world" (John 1:9).

          Maybe you make excuses for man, but God apparently does not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post
            What about all those who never heard the Gospel of Jesus. You can't say that they "rejected" what they did not know. This would be the vast majority of the human race that had ever lived on our planet.
            Unimportant, Since in your personal theology, you get to take as many "trips through the mill" as it takes to "get it right".

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post

              That has been discussed a zillion times. God said in His word that we are without excuse as He has made Himself known through the things He has created, such as nature. Every civilization has always had some form of worship because intrinsic in every man is a belief in some kind of deity. The Bible says that God has given everyone a measure of faith.

              John said that Jesus was (is) "the true light which gives light to every man coming into the world" (John 1:9).

              Maybe you make excuses for man, but God apparently does not.
              So you are denying what Jesus said in John 3:16 and John 14:6. He did not talk about "in every man is a belief in some kind of deity". Believing in "some kind of deity" does not save! Refer to what Jesus said and try not to contradict Him!

              Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post
                That has been discussed a zillion times. God said in His word that we are without excuse as He has made Himself known through the things He has created, such as nature. Every civilization has always had some form of worship because intrinsic in every man is a belief in some kind of deity.
                In reply to your above post, I must point out that you conbtradict what Jesus said in John 3:16 and John 14:6. Jesus never mentioned "a belief in some kind of deity". Believing in "some kind of deity" does not save! Refer to what JESUS said! So, as you rightly said earlier that "we send ourselves to hell", do you believe that all these people sent themselves to hell, or not?
                Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post

                  In reply to your above post, I must point out that you conbtradict what Jesus said in John 3:16 and John 14:6. Jesus never mentioned "a belief in some kind of deity". Believing in "some kind of deity" does not save! Refer to what JESUS said! So, as you rightly said earlier that "we send ourselves to hell", do you believe that all these people sent themselves to hell, or not?
                  My point was that in every civilization man knows there's a higher power. There was always some kind of worshiping going on. Where did that come from? GOD! Man is responsible for what he does/believes with the amount of light he has.If Jesus is not known to that civilization, then what God has been made known man is responsible for.

                  God gave every one of us a measure of faith and Christ "lights" every man that comes into the world.

                  Did God lied? Did Jesus lie?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post

                    My point was that in every civilization man knows there's a higher power. There was always some kind of worshiping going on. Where did that come from? GOD! Man is responsible for what he does/believes with the amount of light he has.If Jesus is not known to that civilization, then what God has been made known man is responsible for.

                    God gave every one of us a measure of faith and Christ "lights" every man that comes into the world.

                    Did God lied? Did Jesus lie?
                    Well God does not lie and nor did Jesus, Jesus said that NO-ONE comes to the Father but through Him and He said that believing in HIM, JESUS, not "some kind of deity" was required for salvation. As a CHRISTian, I believe what the CHRIST said. Jesus did not say what you claim above. The condition of eblieving in Him was without exceptions!

                    Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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                    • #11
                      silent

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by e v e View Post
                        someone told me that I'm going to hell.

                        That person and we are not allowed to play at being a god and pass that judgment on other souls. Not our call.

                        Thats all. ❤️

                        Scriptural references - judgement:


                        http://www.godandscience.org/cults/judge.html


                        Romans 8:31-39 Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson
                        31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written:

                        “For Your sake we are killed all day long;
                        We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”[a]

                        37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

                        Footnote:

                        a. Romans 8:36; Psalm 44:22


                        Psalm 57:6 Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson

                        They have prepared a net for my steps;
                        My soul is bowed down;
                        They have dug a pit before me;
                        Into the midst of it they themselves have fallen. Selah



                        In Christ's service,
                        David Behrens
                        Sola Gloria Dei!
                        Bringing Christian harmony to all the world

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post
                          Well God does not lie and nor did Jesus, Jesus said that NO-ONE comes to the Father but through Him and He said that believing in HIM, JESUS, not "some kind of deity" was required for salvation. As a CHRISTian, I believe what the CHRIST said. Jesus did not say what you claim above. The condition of eblieving in Him was without exceptions!


                          How were people in the OT saved?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by davbeh2010 View Post


                            Scriptural references - judgement:


                            http://www.godandscience.org/cults/judge.html


                            Romans 8:31-39 Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson
                            31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written:

                            “For Your sake we are killed all day long;
                            We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”[a]

                            37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

                            Footnote:

                            a. Romans 8:36; Psalm 44:22


                            Psalm 57:6 Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson

                            They have prepared a net for my steps;
                            My soul is bowed down;
                            They have dug a pit before me;
                            Into the midst of it they themselves have fallen. Selah



                            In Christ's service,
                            David Behrens
                            Sola Gloria Dei!
                            Bringing Christian harmony to all the world
                            Please tell me In your own words. I don't read walls of text. Thank you!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post



                              How were people in the OT saved?
                              They were saved.

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