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  • Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post

    What is your source for this?
    Luke 17:20-21. It really doesn't come with observation. Many people don't believe Jesus in his statement and look for the physical because they are carnal in mind and not spiritual.
    The human side is to claim the promises of God. The divine side is to receive them.

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    • Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post

      Interesting. You are the first born again Christian I have ever known that believes in reincarnation.
      Most who make that claim cling to traditions (mostly RCC traditions) rather than what the CHRIST actually said. I cling to no traditions, and as a CHRISTian, I cling to what the CHRIST TAUGHT.

      Jesus knew that reincarnation is a fact, and spoke accordingly. I follow Him. He saves. Traditions do not save.
      Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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      • Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post
        Most who make that claim cling to traditions (mostly RCC traditions) rather than what the CHRIST actually said. I cling to no traditions, and as a CHRISTian, I cling to what the CHRIST TAUGHT.

        Jesus knew that reincarnation is a fact, and spoke accordingly. I follow Him. He saves. Traditions do not save.
        I am not roman catholic. That is an apostate church. Their traditions are man made.

        Anyway, I am not going to argue with you any further. You will believe whatever it is you wish to believe.

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        • I know you are not a Roman Catholic. That is why it is even more ironic.

          Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post
          I am not roman catholic. That is an apostate church. Their traditions are man made.

          Anyway, I am not going to argue with you any further. You will believe whatever it is you wish to believe.
          What? You follow RCC traditions and you don't even know you are doing it? Well, well, well. You really do have a lot to learn. Fortunately you will probably be more open to learning in a future life.

          Bye!

          Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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          • Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post
            I know you are not a Roman Catholic. That is why it is even more ironic.

            What? You follow RCC traditions and you don't even know you are doing it? Well, well, well. You really do have a lot to learn. Fortunately you will probably be more open to learning in a future life.

            Bye!
            Nope, you are wrong . Roman Catholicism is NOT Christianity. They are NOT Christ followers. I know all about that church because I was raised in it and left because its a false religion..

            Sorry, but you have nothing to teach me.

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            • Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post

              Roman Catholicism is NOT Christianity. They are NOT Christ followers.
              They follow everyone but Jesus (Jud 11).
              "Being a square keeps you from going around in circles." ~ J. Vernon McGee
              Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13

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              • More irony

                Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post
                Nope, you are wrong . Roman Catholicism is NOT Christianity. They are NOT Christ followers. I know all about that church because I was raised in it and left because its a false religion..
                Sorry, but you have nothing to teach me.
                You follow many of their traditions and you don't even realize it. Also you cannot call yourself a "Christ-follower". You have demonstrated that in many many posts. You prefer to believe anyone other than Jesus the Christ.

                Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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                • Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post
                  Oh dear! It is getting worse. Heaven and Hell are not geographic locations. What nexr will you come up with?
                  so you are saying that Genesis 1:1 is a lie. ????

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                  • Originally posted by GaryMac View Post

                    Heaven is not a place,
                    Jesus said that he came down from heaven..was Jesus lying....
                    ok it does not come with observation, the kingdom of God is within you, heaven is ones state of being. And everyone who has received Gods Spirit are taken up to where He is, it is our disposition. It has nothing at all to do with the physical.
                    And truth is as varied as there is people on this planet, one mans truth such as what Jesus said and believed the kingdom of God does not come with observation it is within you and many in this very forum argue with Jesus in that very point that it is a physical place to observe. They argue with Jesus when his claim is he was Gods son but argue with him that he is a god instead of Gods son. So truth for one such as Jesus is a lie for the other. [/QUOTE]lack of understanding....read Genesis 1:1

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                    • Originally posted by Truth-quest View Post
                      More irony

                      You follow many of their traditions and you don't even realize it. Also you cannot call yourself a "Christ-follower". You have demonstrated that in many many posts. You prefer to believe anyone other than Jesus the Christ.
                      First of all, Elijah did not die; he was taken to heaven in a whirlwind as he rode in a chariot of fire. (2 Kings2:11).

                      Second, John specifically denied being Elijah (John 1:21),

                      After John the Baptist, died, Elijah himself appears with Moses at Jesus’ transfiguration;

                      This is the reason why you quickly dismissed Bob's post and refused to respond to it.

                      You have also demonstrated that you have no understanding of Malachi 4. The angel Gabriel told Zacharias, that John would fulfill Malachi 4:6, stating that he would go before the Lord “in the spirit and power of Elijah.” This is NOT reincarnation. For example, when Elijah was taken up, Elisha requested of God a double portion of Elijah's spirit God granted his prayer. Was Elisha now Elijah reincarnated? Absolutely NOT.

                      Like I said, you are in error and have absolutely nothing to teach me or anyone else on here. Sorry, but I'm really not interested in pursuing this any further with you.

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                      • You are a real specialist in irony!

                        Originally posted by Jake1254 View Post

                        First of all, Elijah did not die; he was taken to heaven in a whirlwind as he rode in a chariot of fire. (2 Kings2:11).
                        False. It never said he did not die and he went up into the SKY. Check out to original Hebrew!

                        Second, John specifically denied being Elijah (John 1:21),
                        You believe a mere unreliable man and call Jesus, the Son of God, a liar.
                        After John the Baptist, died, Elijah himself appears with Moses at Jesus’ transfiguration;
                        It was a vision. The account said so! Read it and think about it for a single moment. If you don't understand... too bad... just carry on letting other people think for you.
                        This is the reason why you quickly dismissed Bob's post and refused to respond to it.
                        more nonsense!

                        You have also demonstrated that you have no understanding of Malachi 4
                        . Really? The prophesy said that Elijah would return, not "someone with Elijah's message. You obviously NEVER read ANYTHING properly!
                        The angel Gabriel told Zacharias, that John would fulfill Malachi 4:6, stating that he would go before the Lord “in the spirit and power of Elijah.
                        Body of John + Spirit (and power) of Elijah = Reincarnation

                        Everything you say gives evidence against yourself. You are very good at supporting reincarnation that you think you are refuting, because OBVIOUSLY, you have been reading those ridiculous "how-to-refute-reincarnation" webpages. Think for yourself and believe JESUS!

                        Sorry, but I'm really not interested in pursuing this any further with you.
                        Don't worry, you have done a very good job at supporting reincarnation in spite of yourself. More and more ironical. As long as you parrot your establishment and the RCC you will never be able to find the truth, the truth that JESUS told you to seek for yourself.

                        Enjoy... and you are welcome to come back and show your ignorance up even more, whenever you like!
                        Last edited by Truth-quest; 07-22-17, 07:48 PM.
                        Fellow posters, pls don’t complain about my "divisive" views! “…The Apologetics Forum is for the purpose of answering and debating those with different beliefs or disagreeing with Christian beliefs....We do not remove heretics…”(source CARM, above)

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                        • Originally posted by GaryMac View Post

                          It isn't my decision for sure it is yours but I do know by what you say if you are like Him or not as Jesus was like Him.
                          It's not words coming out of an apeframe that determines a thing. Many aren't that smart and don't speak well, yet met Him and live in their spiritual man.

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                          • Originally posted by newbirth View Post

                            1 Peter 4:17...what do you suppose Peter was doing in Acts 8:20 ?????
                            That is out of context, having to do with sorcery.
                            nothing going on here was sorcery.

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                            • Originally posted by serpentdove View Post
                              That's a shame (2 Pe 2:1). You'll enter the tribulation (Jn 8:24). You will receive a strong delusion soon (2 Thess 2:11).
                              Don't use scripture to cast spells on others by twisting the words.

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                              • Originally posted by e v e View Post

                                Don't use scripture to cast spells...
                                :chuckle: Eph 4:14
                                "Being a square keeps you from going around in circles." ~ J. Vernon McGee
                                Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13

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