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Protestants and Catholics share the same belief on the Incarnation: God with us.

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  • Originally posted by Truther View Post

    Mary was married to Joseph and had children with him after Jesus was born.






    And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS....




    3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.


    Joe, look at the verses.
    Joseph and Mary got busy having kids after Jesus was born.

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    • Originally posted by Truther View Post

      Joseph and Mary got busy having kids after Jesus was born.
      Where in Sacred Scripture does it name Mary and Joseph as the mother and father of anyone but Christ?

      JoeT
      Sigillum Militum Χρisti † / "Truth exists. The Incarnation happened."

      Totus Tuus, "Totally yours . . . Keep me in this union".

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      • Originally posted by JoeT View Post

        Where in Sacred Scripture does it name Mary and Joseph as the mother and father of anyone but Christ?

        JoeT
        And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS....




        3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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        • Originally posted by Truther View Post

          And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS....


          3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
          You are dodging the question, where in scripture does it say Mary and Joseph were the parents of anyone other than Christ.

          The meaning of the word 'till' does not necessarily mean a certain thing happened in a point in time. Rather it was manner of speaking, such as "Isaiah 46:4 "Even to old age I am he." Does he cease to be himself when he is old? "He sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, 'until' the waters were dried up off the earth." [Genesis 8:7],Could the raven no longer fly after earth dried up? Therefore Michol the daughter of Saul had no child to the day of her death.[2 Kings 6:23] Did Michol wait till after her death to give child?

          JoeT
          Sigillum Militum Χρisti † / "Truth exists. The Incarnation happened."

          Totus Tuus, "Totally yours . . . Keep me in this union".

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          • Originally posted by JoeT View Post

            You are dodging the question, where in scripture does it say Mary and Joseph were the parents of anyone other than Christ.

            The meaning of the word 'till' does not necessarily mean a certain thing happened in a point in time. Rather it was manner of speaking, such as "Isaiah 46:4 "Even to old age I am he." Does he cease to be himself when he is old? "He sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, 'until' the waters were dried up off the earth." [Genesis 8:7],Could the raven no longer fly after earth dried up? Therefore Michol the daughter of Saul had no child to the day of her death.[2 Kings 6:23] Did Michol wait till after her death to give child?

            JoeT
            It never ends ...
            Save Your people, O Lord, and bless Your inheritance! Grant victory to Your church over evil, and protect Your people by Your Cross! [source: Troparion of the Holy Cross (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

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            • Originally posted by Truther View Post

              Did the 2nd person impregnate his flesh's mother since the 2nd person "incarnated" himself?

              Is the true Father that mated with Mary, the 2nd person which became the son of Mary?
              I spoke about Jesus appearing in the OT....He wrestled....and you reply back with this?

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              • Originally posted by Truther View Post

                How did the terms 'God the Father" and "God the Son" develop without a "God the Mother"?

                Is not a mother needed to make a father and a son?
                You sound like a Mormon.

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                • Originally posted by Truther View Post
                  "God the Son" and "God the Holy Ghost" are not found in the Bible in these terms, therefore someone made them up(and is the most quoted phrase in Christendom).

                  Fact is, only "God the Father" is seen in the Bible.....



                  Eph 4:6

                  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
                  All, the Father, Son and Holy Sprirt are shown doing the things of God.

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                  • Originally posted by JoeT View Post

                    You are dodging the question, where in scripture does it say Mary and Joseph were the parents of anyone other than Christ.

                    The meaning of the word 'till' does not necessarily mean a certain thing happened in a point in time. Rather it was manner of speaking, such as "Isaiah 46:4 "Even to old age I am he." Does he cease to be himself when he is old? "He sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, 'until' the waters were dried up off the earth." [Genesis 8:7],Could the raven no longer fly after earth dried up? Therefore Michol the daughter of Saul had no child to the day of her death.[2 Kings 6:23] Did Michol wait till after her death to give child?

                    JoeT
                    67.119 the continuous extent of time up to a point—‘until, to, at last, at length.’
                    [Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996)].


                    To assume that Mary was barren after that point in time
                    is adding to scripture, which is a speciality of the Mother of Harlots.

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                    • Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                      All, the Father, Son and Holy Sprirt are shown doing the things of God.
                      All persons of the Godhead are "the Father" as per the verse, including the Son?





                      One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

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                      • Originally posted by Truther View Post

                        All persons of the Godhead are "the Father" as per the verse, including the Son?





                        One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
                        All 3 exist at the same time.

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                        • Originally posted by Truther View Post
                          "God the Son" and "God the Holy Ghost" are not found in the Bible in these terms, therefore someone made them up(and is the most quoted phrase in Christendom).
                          1 John 5:12 He who has the Son has life;
                          he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.


                          Sorry to hear about that lack of life !!!

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                          • Originally posted by JoeT View Post

                            You are dodging the question, where in scripture does it say Mary and Joseph were the parents of anyone other than Christ.

                            The meaning of the word 'till' does not necessarily mean a certain thing happened in a point in time. Rather it was manner of speaking, such as "Isaiah 46:4 "Even to old age I am he." Does he cease to be himself when he is old? "He sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, 'until' the waters were dried up off the earth." [Genesis 8:7],Could the raven no longer fly after earth dried up? Therefore Michol the daughter of Saul had no child to the day of her death.[2 Kings 6:23] Did Michol wait till after her death to give child?

                            JoeT
                            Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.




                            Jesus was the oldest (half) brother of all these folks.

                            Do you deny this verse?

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                            • Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                              1 John 5:12 He who has the Son has life;
                              he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.


                              Sorry to hear about that lack of life !!!
                              I see you are trying to post a verse from the Bible worded "God the Son".

                              Frustrating, isn't it?

                              But, you will carry on the term for the Pope anyway.

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                              • Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                                All 3 exist at the same time.
                                Are all 3 person "The Father"?

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