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WHO SENT TYCHICUS & HIS DISCIPLES to EPHESUS??

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  • WHO SENT TYCHICUS & HIS DISCIPLES to EPHESUS??

    Hello to all.
    RE:- REV 2: 1-2

    Who was it that sent FALSE Apostles to the Ephesians ? Rev 2: 1-2 ..
    Read Paul's words in 2nd Tim 4: 9-14 below.


    2nd Tim 4: 9-14
    9 Do your best to come to me quickly, 10 for Demas, because he loved this world, has deserted me and has gone to Thessalonica. Crescens has gone to Galatia, and Titus to Dalmatia. Only Luke is with me. Get Mark and bring him with you, because he is helpful to me in my ministry. (Rom 2: 16) I SENT TYCHICUS TO EPHESUS . When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, and my scrolls, especially the parchments.

    14 Alexander the metalworker did me a great deal of harm. The Lord will repay him for what he has done. 15 You too should be on your guard against him, because he strongly opposed our message.

    Tychicus , Timothy, Titus , Luke and Barnabas (acts 14: 14 ) were ALL PAULS apostles/ Disciples. Their names are NOT listed in Matt 10: 2-4

    All replies welcome.

    This topic opened by DANNO.

    ( john Cam555)
    Last edited by DANNO; 03-17-19, 08:15 AM.

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    You are like a little Alexander the coppersmith.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Conan View Post
      You are like a little Alexander the coppersmith.
      Mr Conman .

      Thanks for taking part in this debate / Dialogue.

      You are guilty of bearing false witness. Apologise and repent or die in your sin.

      NOTICE THERE WAS NO LOVE, compassion and forgiveness towards Alexander. Contrary to Paul's gospel on love, compassion and forgiveness he wants you to follow in 1st Cor 13: 4-7 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...-7&version=NIV

      click here > https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...-7&version=NIV

      Matt 12: 36-37 may apply to you?
      Last edited by DANNO; 03-17-19, 08:54 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DANNO View Post

        You are guilty of bearing false witness. Apologise and repent or die in your sin.

        Matt 12: 36-37?
        If you do not accept Paul's writings and Luke's as well you have lost a major amount of God's Word. By loosing so much of God's words it is no wonder you are mislead. What New Testament books do you acknowledge as God's Word, If any?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Conan View Post

          If you do not accept Paul's writings and Luke's as well you have lost a major amount of God's Word. By loosing so much of God's words it is no wonder you are mislead. What New Testament books do you acknowledge as God's Word, If any?
          I have everything I NEED to know in the WORDS OF YESHUA in the books of Matthew and John and REVELATION.

          Yeshua/ Jesus did NOT say He will send ANOTHER MORTAL SPOSTLE in John 16: 13 , John 14: 16 , John 14: 26
          Paul came ON THE SCENE Months AFTER YESHUA resurrection and spoke those words! Agree or not?

          Do you accept Paul or Mathias who replaced Judas in ACTS 1: 21-26,, Rev 21: 14

          WHO MEET the CRITIRIA in ACTS 1: 21-26 to be the Apostle to replace JUDAS. Paul or Matthias?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Conan View Post

            If you do not accept Paul's writings and Luke's as well you have lost a major amount of God's Word. By loosing so much of God's words it is no wonder you are mislead. What New Testament books do you acknowledge as God's Word, If any?
            Plz . put up BIBLE evidence to support your views and beliefs???

            Waiting...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Conan View Post
              You are like a little Alexander the coppersmith.
              Mr C

              Do you agree Paul's actions in 1st Cor 5: 5 and in 1st Tim 1: 20 is CONTRARY to his gospel in 1st Cor 13: 4-7 & Rom 2: 16 ? Yes or no?
              and do you agree is CONTRARY to James 4,: 12 Yes or no ??

              Waiting...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DANNO View Post

                I have everything I NEED to know in the WORDS OF YESHUA in the books of Matthew and John and REVELATION.
                1st, 2nd and 3rd letters of John?

                Yeshua/ Jesus did NOT say He will send ANOTHER MORTAL SPOSTLE in John 16: 13 , John 14: 16 , John 14: 26
                Paul came ON THE SCENE Months AFTER YESHUA resurrection and spoke those words! Agree or not?
                Of course Paul came on the scene after Jesus's resurrection!
                The Book of Acts tells us that! He encountered the risen Jesus on the road to Damascus.

                Do you accept Paul or Mathias who replaced Judas in ACTS 1: 21-26,, Rev 21: 14

                WHO MEET the CRITIRIA in ACTS 1: 21-26 to be the Apostle to replace JUDAS. Paul or Matthias?
                Mathias was chosen by the other Apostle's through lots, we do not know if it was God's choice. Many see that God's choice was really Paul, and he meet the risen Christ which more than qualifies him to be an Apostle. How many times did brother Paul encounter our risen Lord?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Conan View Post

                  1st, 2nd and 3rd letters of John?



                  Of course Paul came on the scene after Jesus's resurrection!
                  The Book of Acts tells us that! He encountered the risen Jesus on the road to Damascus.



                  Mathias was chosen by the other Apostle's through lots, we do not know if it was God's choice. Many see that God's choice was really Paul, and he meet the risen Christ which more than qualifies him to be an Apostle. How many times did brother Paul encounter our risen Lord?

                  Read my post again with BOTH EYES WIDE OPEN! I said JOHN 's books / writings!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Conan View Post

                    1st, 2nd and 3rd letters of John?



                    Of course Paul came on the scene after Jesus's resurrection!
                    The Book of Acts tells us that! He encountered the risen Jesus on the road to Damascus.



                    Mathias was chosen by the other Apostle's through lots, we do not know if it was God's choice. Many see that God's choice was really Paul, and he meet the risen Christ which more than qualifies him to be an Apostle. How many times did brother Paul encounter our risen Lord?
                    Did GOD instruct Moese to use LOTS in Lev 16: 7- 12 and In LEV 4 . Yes or no .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Conan View Post

                      1st, 2nd and 3rd letters of John?



                      Of course Paul came on the scene after Jesus's resurrection!
                      The Book of Acts tells us that! He encountered the risen Jesus on the road to Damascus.



                      Mathias was chosen by the other Apostle's through lots, we do not know if it was God's choice. Many see that God's choice was really Paul, and he meet the risen Christ which more than qualifies him to be an Apostle. How many times did brother Paul encounter our risen Lord?
                      Did GOD instruct Moses to use LOTS in Lev 16: 7- 12 and In LEV 4 . Yes or no .

                      Do you know why peter used LOTS? I can tell why if you don't know.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DANNO View Post

                        Did GOD instruct Moese to use LOTS in Lev 16: 7- 12 and In LEV 4 . Yes or no .
                        Yes, but that passage has absolutely nothing to do with choosing Apostle's.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DANNO View Post


                          Read my post again with BOTH EYES WIDE OPEN! I said JOHN 's books / writings!!
                          It was not clear in your original post. It could have easily been interpreted that you only accepted the 3 books named by you, instead of the six you intended.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DANNO View Post
                            Hello to all.
                            RE:- REV 2: 1-2

                            Who was it that sent FALSE Apostles to the Ephesians ? Rev 2: 1-2 ..
                            Read Paul's words in 2nd Tim 4: 9-14 below.


                            2nd Tim 4: 9-14
                            9 Do your best to come to me quickly, 10 for Demas, because he loved this world, has deserted me and has gone to Thessalonica. Crescens has gone to Galatia, and Titus to Dalmatia. Only Luke is with me. Get Mark and bring him with you, because he is helpful to me in my ministry. (Rom 2: 16) I SENT TYCHICUS TO EPHESUS . When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, and my scrolls, especially the parchments.

                            14 Alexander the metalworker did me a great deal of harm. The Lord will repay him for what he has done. 15 You too should be on your guard against him, because he strongly opposed our message.

                            Tychicus , Timothy, Titus , Luke and Barnabas (acts 14: 14 ) were ALL PAULS apostles/ Disciples. Their names are NOT listed in Matt 10: 2-4

                            All replies welcome.

                            This topic opened by DANNO.

                            ( john Cam555)
                            Now you are saying that Paul sent false apostles to Ephesus... where does Rev say that???.You are making assumptions...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Conan View Post

                              If you do not accept Paul's writings and Luke's as well you have lost a major amount of God's Word. By loosing so much of God's words it is no wonder you are mislead. What New Testament books do you acknowledge as God's Word, If any?
                              If anyone follows anyone other than what Jesus said of himself and what we should be like the Father as he was like the Father, these can be so easily mislead.

                              As I have stated before if you removed everything from the book except that what was written of Jesus in his walk and receive form God Himself that what Jesus received from Him, Christianity would have a whole different look and that would be the same look as Jesus had of Him. But because man is smarter than to do that they are chained to mans opinions instead such as those of Paul and others.

                              It is written of Jesus that he said, in that day ye shall ask me nothing but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you. Now if I no longer have to go to Jesus for information, what makes one think someone like Paul, Peter, James, or any other preacher has the correct or better way?
                              The human side is to claim the promises of God. The divine side is to receive them.

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