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  • the Self and all it 'does'

    the self is depraved and everything it does (works) are for the enemy realm. dead.

    when a soul meets God, and wants Him, and He brings her to Him, and that soul leaves the Self, and constantly tries to stay away from that Self,
    then what she does is for Him, and is not dead. That souls is His. And all she did before is now directed to His Will.

    but in the Self (the "I") - nothing is accomplished...
    all that Self does is focus itself on morality in the form of the good and evil tree..."fine print" -
    law. The Self cannot love. it's more interested in legal details and arguing about them.


    all the above being the true version..and not the fake works versus faith debate.

  • #2
    All the thread titles have been so very negative in apologetics lately.... and not very many christian themes... mostly just scoffing type titles...so...
    i hope i can post some things...in most simple way, to improve that situation.

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    • #3
      Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

      So you are saying Jesus use of I, in the above verse was Evil.
      Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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      • #4
        Incidentally what are YOUR WORKS, that you call Evil?
        Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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        • #5
          Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
          Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
          Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by e v e View Post
            the self is depraved and everything it does (works) are for the enemy realm. dead.

            when a soul meets God, and wants Him, and He brings her to Him, and that soul leaves the Self, and constantly tries to stay away from that Self,
            then what she does is for Him, and is not dead. That souls is His. And all she did before is now directed to His Will.

            but in the Self (the "I") - nothing is accomplished...
            all that Self does is focus itself on morality in the form of the good and evil tree..."fine print" -
            law. The Self cannot love. it's more interested in legal details and arguing about them.


            all the above being the true version..and not the fake works versus faith debate.
            Self is the enemy of God and the place law is establish to regulate Him.
            The human side is to claim the promises of God. The divine side is to receive them.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GaryMac View Post

              Self is the enemy of God and the place law is establish to regulate Him.
              DO you really think God Said,

              I am that I am,

              No wait a minute I am is the Enemy of WHO I AM.

              So God's Self is the ENEMY of WHO God is?

              You seem to be speaking against A God, and more in a humanistic way.

              Originally posted by GaryMac View Post

              Self is the enemy of God and the place law is establish to regulate Him.
              Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


              You are saying that God is Delusional, God only has a Place in the Universe, in you or others like you. He God serves your flesh.

              You are also saying that God saying I AM THAT I AM was some sort of self Delusion.

              You are worst then clueless.
              Last edited by Forgiven Child; 06-01-19, 11:37 PM.
              Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GaryMac View Post

                Self is the enemy of God and the place law is establish to regulate Him.
                exactly. The Self belongs to the other realm. Not His at all. The Self is the legalistic.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Forgiven Child View Post

                  DO you really think God Said,

                  I am that I am,

                  No wait a minute I am is the Enemy of WHO I AM.

                  So God's Self is the ENEMY of WHO God is?

                  You seem to be speaking against A God, and more in a humanistic way.



                  Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


                  You are saying that God is Delusional, God only has a Place in the Universe, in you or others like you. He God serves your flesh.

                  You are also saying that God saying I AM THAT I AM was some sort of self Delusion.

                  You are worst then clueless.
                  Self is not a person.

                  Self is not the soul.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Forgiven Child View Post
                    Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

                    So you are saying Jesus use of I, in the above verse was Evil.
                    In that line, no.. in that line He refers to Who He is : God.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Forgiven Child View Post
                      Incidentally what are YOUR WORKS, that you call Evil?
                      Non-question. Iím sorry you are taking the post harshly.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by e v e View Post

                        Self is not a person.

                        Self is not the soul.
                        So you are saying GOD has no awareness of self.

                        You are saying God is figment of Mans Imagination.
                        Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by e v e View Post

                          In that line, no.. in that line He refers to Who He is : God.
                          Yes in that line, and many others.

                          It disproves your assertion.
                          Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by e v e View Post

                            Non-question. I’m sorry you are taking the post harshly.
                            I would really like to Know your Works, that you say are Evil.

                            You say all works are evil.

                            What are your works?
                            That you say are Evil?
                            Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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                            • #15
                              If you give a hungry child a Sandwich,

                              You have called that EVIL.
                              Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

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