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  • #31
    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post




    God created the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
    and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
    and idolaters, and all liars
    for Himself
    to reject them forever
    (Rev 21:8, Prov 16:4) !!!!

    It is unquestionably scripture according to the papacy,
    who included it in their "INERRANT" canon.
    Happy now?




    .
    Rabbit trail again!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post





      God created the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
      and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
      and idolaters, and all liars
      for Himself
      to reject them forever
      (Rev 21:8, Prov 16:4) !!!!

      It is unquestionably scripture according to the papacy,
      who included it in their "INERRANT" canon.
      Happy now?

      Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

      Rabbit trail again!
      I make allowances for those, who are intoxicated on tares (Rev 17:2, Mat 13:25).

      There will be a Great Awakening to the Apostolic Canon.

      Which is ordered by God and contains only
      foundational prophets and apostles (Eph 2:20, 2 Pet 3:1-2)


      But sleepy Christendom became intoxicated (Rev 17:2).
      on the poisonous darnel in the 'Roman Canon' (Mat 13:25),
      which was compiled by UNINSPIRED early church FATHERS

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      • #33
        Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
        Yes , Prov 16:4

        The LORD hath made [for a purpose] all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. Or fr the day of wrath, destruction, punishment,damnation, torment, shame.
        This is to let man know he is bound to God endgame. And to cling unto the Good and Reasonable God.

        Slated for destruction for the agnostics who do not care, the atheists who deny. The lustful who kill and rape and steal. None of these clung unto God as their Father. Having possibly no opportunity
        from a mediator, or significant other who loved them, or circumstances of grief, the spark of faith was never given.

        But they breathed the same air we breath. Saw the sun rise and set in beauty. The grains dancing in unison in the fields of the wind. The tender constant waves of water caressing the shoreline.

        God is good even for the ones He did not draw. Whose hearts were broken since they knew love to begin with. Who had a healthy mind and body in part.

        The Sermon on the Mount tells of God from grace and mercy and truth. To look at Sovereign Will is to see things from God's Perspective. You tell me which is the better view. We have no idea or iota of comprehension how man and God's will coalesce. So shut your trap about the other side which you will not know fully.

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        • #34
          Another scripture that more than indicates that God purposely created some men for destruction and wrath in the final day of Judgment is Rom 9:21-22

          21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?


          22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

          Its revealed here that the Sovereign God has the absolute right to make, create, fashion, construct, to author and appoint men to destruction, dishonor or disgrace.

          The word dishonour is the greek word atimia and means:

          disgrace, dishonor; a dishonorable use.

          Now the word disgrace, the english word means:

          the loss of respect, honor, or esteem; ignominy; shame:
          the disgrace of criminals.

          Which coincides with what God says in Daniel regarding the reprobate raised in the last day Dan 12:2

          2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.


          Now they were created by God on purpose to suffer eternal shame and contempt !

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          • #35
            Originally posted by nothead View Post

            This is to let man know he is bound to God endgame. And to cling unto the Good and Reasonable God.

            Slated for destruction for the agnostics who do not care, the atheists who deny. The lustful who kill and rape and steal. None of these clung unto God as their Father. Having possibly no opportunity
            from a mediator, or significant other who loved them, or circumstances of grief, the spark of faith was never given.

            But they breathed the same air we breath. Saw the sun rise and set in beauty. The grains dancing in unison in the fields of the wind. The tender constant waves of water caressing the shoreline.

            God is good even for the ones He did not draw. Whose hearts were broken since they knew love to begin with. Who had a healthy mind and body in part.

            The Sermon on the Mount tells of God from grace and mercy and truth. To look at Sovereign Will is to see things from God's Perspective. You tell me which is the better view. We have no idea or iota of comprehension how man and God's will coalesce. So shut your trap about the other side which you will not know fully.
            Dont know what you talking about ? Sounds like a rabbit trail though !

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            • #36
              Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

              Dont know what you talking about ? Sounds like a rabbit trail though !
              Focus on what man can know. Even a child of faith sir. Focusing upon what man formed of God cannot know, how God is fair and just, determining even our hardness of heart is awry sir.

              This so happens to be the DIFFERENCE between Reformed thinking and righteous thought. God is good, and just, and fair. In the end sir. For all sir. That is all sir. POSH on yer MISHMASH
              of knowing sir. You know NADA clay pot sir.

              Not exactly a RABBIT TRAIL but what Paul said to YOU sir. What say you oh man? What CAN the formed say, to the Former sir? YOU MADE ME THIS WAY sir? NO SIR.

              All of this MALARKEY about PREVENIENT Grace or EVANESCENT Grace...BULL cakes. God is gracious and patient and kind. All other thought is BULL sir.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by nothead View Post

                Focus on what man can know. Even a child of faith sir. Focusing upon what man formed of God cannot know, how God is fair and just, determining even our hardness of heart is awry sir.

                This so happens to be the DIFFERENCE between Reformed thinking and righteous thought. God is good, and just, and fair. In the end sir. For all sir. That is all sir. POSH on yer MISHMASH
                of knowing sir. You know NADA clay pot sir.

                Not exactly a RABBIT TRAIL but what Paul said to YOU sir. What say you oh man? What CAN the formed say, to the Former sir? YOU MADE ME THIS WAY sir? NO SIR.

                All of this MALARKEY about PREVENIENT Grace or EVANESCENT Grace...BULL cakes. God is gracious and patient and kind. All other thought is BULL sir.
                Not interested !

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Theo1689 View Post

                  Just because you MAKE a false claim, DOESN'T make it so.



                  You are in error.
                  You have provided NO Scripture that teaches, "everything he does is love".
                  THAT is the "conjecture".
                  YOU are the one guilty of "conjecture", NOT me.



                  No, YOU are.
                  You are the one trying to claim YOUR opinion is equal with God's.
                  It is NOT.



                  I will respectfully throw your own advice right back in your face, where it belongs.
                  All you have come up with is your opinion of my "wrongness" and a suggestion that potentially breaking CARM rules is some kind of standard for my "wrongness."

                  God is sacred and God is love. His other attributes fall in line with what he is. You certainly do not need to agree but do not fool yourself into thinking your have provided any meaningful rebuttal. Please respond when you do.
                  Salvation belongs to God

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                    Not interested !
                    Just be'en bullish in your stubbornness sir. Paul SAID you cannot go there with your beany brain sir. This INCLUDES the title of your OP sir.

                    Every man is responsible for his decisions, and this includes wimmen sir. You full of bull and all you can snort is "rabbit trail," sir.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by nothead View Post

                      Just be'en bullish in your stubbornness sir. Paul SAID you cannot go there with your beany brain sir. This INCLUDES the title of your OP sir.

                      Every man is responsible for his decisions, and this includes wimmen sir. You full of bull and all you can snort is "rabbit trail," sir.
                      Not interested !

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                        Not interested !
                        RABBIT TRAIL and siwwy WABBIT got his head inna hole. His BUTT still sticken out, about to be BUSTED.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Bluemayskye View Post

                          God is sacred and God is love. His other attributes fall in line with what he is. You certainly do not need to agree but do not fool yourself into thinking your have provided any meaningful rebuttal. Please respond when you do.
                          You have offered NO SCRIPTURE for your view, only RATIONALIZATION.

                          I don't need any "rebuttal", since you have already lost the debate, having no SCRIPTURE to support your false claim.
                          "We are not to understand the other side; we are to discuss to expound the truth." -- A misguided apologist
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                          "The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation,
                          but washes you upon the Rock of Ages."
                          -- Charles Haddon Spurgeon

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
                            Yes , Prov 16:4

                            The LORD hath made [for a purpose] all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. Or fr the day of wrath, destruction, punishment,damnation, torment, shame.
                            The most in-depth, emotional, comprehensive thing I can say is...

                            "Yup."
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Theo1689 View Post

                              You have offered NO SCRIPTURE for your view, only RATIONALIZATION.

                              I don't need any "rebuttal", since you have already lost the debate, having no SCRIPTURE to support your false claim.
                              Maybe some people KNOW that the initial and fundamental THINGS of God is to first know His patience and graciousness.

                              Maybe some REFORMED thinken nitwits abstract this most basic concept and know SOMETHING ELSE.

                              You deny the faith of a CHILD sir, which can easily trump your own theology HANDS DOWN sir. MENTALLY CHALLENGED to the things of YHWH sir.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bluemayskye View Post

                                If god is the definition of love and this is how he operates, how do you apply this example to your life?
                                The same John that penned God is love" also said "God is Light" and "God is Truth," but I don't hear many Christians going around telling brethren "God is Light," when dealing with darkness, or "God is Truth" when dealing with lies.

                                God is love. OK. What does that mean?

                                That means God is Sovereign.

                                That means God's love is Sovereign.

                                It also means God's hate is Sovereign.

                                God loves and God hates. But God does not love and hate. Not too many people know - or accept - a God that hates sin and sinner, but there He is...Yahweh, the Holy God of Israel.

                                So, let's put that in perspective.

                                If God loves "you" God will save you. If God does not love "you" God will not save you. That's the bottom line.

                                Oh, and the above cannot be applied to our daily life since we true born of God are delivered from that fate. But the truth does give me hope that God will deal with those He did not save. In their two-fold existence (body and soul) unless God intervenes in their life they are getting cast into "hell" (Matt. 10:28).
                                If at the moment of death you begin to feel a stinging sensation? Brace yourself, Dorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore.
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