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Which WILL will you Emphasize?

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  • Which WILL will you Emphasize?

    Reformed: God's Sovereign Will.

    Arminian: Man's Free Will.

    Reality: God's Sovereign Will is not known by man, whom PAUL SAID cannot know. The ELECT in the FINAL sense of the word is not even known.

    They ASKED about Judas Iscariot and Jesus REBUKES them, boys and girls.

    So then, NOW where are you sirs and madams? You HAVE TO operate by YOUR WILL howevermuch FREE it really is.

    You WILL to do God's WILL. You WANT to do God's will. And if Spirit indwelt you CAN discern and DO God's will.

    Gosh THAT one was hard. Even a NOTHEAD could figure it out.
    Shema will change the Christian World.

    Turn it upside down. To where it once was, the POV of JESUS, his DISCIPLES and his SERVANTS.

    Know God YHWH Elohim is One. And love Him with all. Mk 12, red letter words.

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    Originally posted by nothead View Post
    Reformed: God's Sovereign Will.

    Arminian: Man's Free Will.

    Reality: God's Sovereign Will is not known by man, whom PAUL SAID cannot know. The ELECT in the FINAL sense of the word is not even known.

    They ASKED about Judas Iscariot and Jesus REBUKES them, boys and girls.

    So then, NOW where are you sirs and madams? You HAVE TO operate by YOUR WILL howevermuch FREE it really is.

    You WILL to do God's WILL. You WANT to do God's will. And if Spirit indwelt you CAN discern and DO God's will.

    Gosh THAT one was hard. Even a NOTHEAD could figure it out.
    When God, according to HIS SOVEREIGN WILL, convicts a person of his SIN, then the Person OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL can decide to SURRENDER, Repent, and be Born again, during the time when God's conviction is present on them (as the foundation of faith).

    OR the person can, of HIS OWN FREE WILL, decide to do NOTHING, in which case the Conviction of sin will pass, the door into salvation will shut, and they will remain dead spiritually.

    MAYBE God will Convict of SIN again, and the same choice will be presented. or MAYBE the "Die is cast", opportunity for repentance will never come again, and the person is eternally lost.

    Simple as that.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

      When God, according to HIS SOVEREIGN WILL, convicts a person of his SIN, then the Person OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL can decide to SURRENDER, Repent, and be Born again, during the time when God's conviction is present on them (as the foundation of faith).

      OR the person can, of HIS OWN FREE WILL, decide to do NOTHING, in which case the Conviction of sin will pass, the door into salvation will shut, and they will remain dead spiritually.

      MAYBE God will Convict of SIN again, and the same choice will be presented. or MAYBE the "Die is cast", opportunity for repentance will never come again, and the person is eternally lost.

      Simple as that.
      That's not Sovereign Will sir. God hardening Pharoah's heart is SOVEREIGN will.

      That is the workings of Spirit sir. This is not the same thing for the Reformed mindset.

      And get the FREEE out of the WILL and now you have Judaic View sir. No SUCH thing. Our WILLS are determined and influenced by all kinds of dealybobbers.

      Genetics, born into what culture, society, milieu. Significant others. Wanton ways and means. You never thought about these things since you do not care sir.

      But, by and by you will return to the affirmation of man's WILL since we got NO OTHER thingybobber to operate by. Even the Holy Spirit is not IRRESTIBLE grace and you know that sir.
      Shema will change the Christian World.

      Turn it upside down. To where it once was, the POV of JESUS, his DISCIPLES and his SERVANTS.

      Know God YHWH Elohim is One. And love Him with all. Mk 12, red letter words.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by nothead View Post
        That's not Sovereign Will sir. God hardening Pharoah's heart is SOVEREIGN will.
        Unless, of course, God just stopped "softening it" and let it return to its normal state. Conviction of SIN works that way. when it's there your heart is "soft and receptive", but when it passes, your heart goes back to normal.

        That is the workings of Spirit sir. This is not the same thing for the Reformed mindset.
        Nobody gives a rosy rodents posterior, except for "Reformed Adherants".

        Our WILLS are determined and influenced by all kinds of dealybobbers.
        Of course - it's called "life".

        But, by and by you will return to the affirmation of man's WILL since we got NO OTHER thingybobber to operate by.
        Sure, no problem there. I can't "Return" to what I never left, y'all!!

        Even the Holy Spirit is not IRRESTIBLE grace and you know that sir.
        SO we both would make lousy Calvies. Oh well - no biggie.

        But the bottom line is If HE doesn't "Draw", and convict of SIN, then you're NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE to accept, or refuse.

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