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  • The "finger prints" of God left within fallen humanity.

    Regardless of what man made religious dogma advocates would like for the rest of their peers to believe......

    The "finger prints" of God are left all over fallen humanity.

    When I say "finger prints", I'm reference the residual things left intact by the creative actions of God in Adam before the his sin action in choosing His wife Eve.


    Finger Prints

    1. Innate rational intellect.
    2. Innate ability to hear, see, and speak.
    3. Innate ability to feel. Process feelings.

    There are many sub categories but we'll start with these three main points.

    1. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to reason. In fact, the Scriptures declare it.

    Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

    Notice the words "reason" and "together".

    Needless to say, God could have taken such intellect from Adam. He didn't. In this innate attribute all men are equal.


    2. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to hear, see and speak.

    All innate qualities of God Himself. God isn't deaf, blind or mutt.

    Needless to say, God could have taken such innate qualities from Adam. He didn't. In this innate qualities all men are equal.

    3. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to "feel"

    I know some would love to believe that God doesn't "feel" anything. Yet, love is a feeling. Peace is a feeling.

    Needless to say, God could have taken such innate feelings from Adam. He didn't. In this innate feelings all men are equal.


    Because of these "finger prints" left intact in our fallen nature through Adam, ANYONE can respond the Gospel message of Jesus Christ.

    The Gospel can be received and processed through all these innate qualities remaining in humanity.

    Thus, the message is always truly....

    John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.

  • #2
    Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post

    I know some would love to believe that God doesn't "feel" anything. Yet, love is a feeling. Peace is a feeling.
    Love is action despite feelings.
    The Roman Canon will be threshed in the harvest.
    angels .. will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend (Mt 13:41).

    Christians will thereby be divided
    into those who remain intoxicated on the harlotries of the papacy (Rev 17:2)

    and those who can enter heaven, because they have a pure mind
    for they recall only the foundational prophets and apostles (Eph 2:20, 2 Pet 3:1-2)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

      Love is action despite feelings.
      True Love marries feeling and action. God is tender in love toward us.

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      • #4

        Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


        Love is action despite feelings.


        Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post

        True Love marries feeling and action. God is tender in love toward us.

        Too many people marry on feelings.
        instead of being guided by God and using their brains.




        The Roman Canon will be threshed in the harvest.
        angels .. will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend (Mt 13:41).

        Christians will thereby be divided
        into those who remain intoxicated on the harlotries of the papacy (Rev 17:2)

        and those who can enter heaven, because they have a pure mind
        for they recall only the foundational prophets and apostles (Eph 2:20, 2 Pet 3:1-2)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


          Love is action despite feelings.





          Too many people marry on feelings.
          instead of being guided by God and using their brains.



          Says people that don't really know what love is.

          At times love can be the self willed action of a prideful mind. When you say "use your brain", you're usually not making things any better. The brain only knows what it knows. It needs help from God.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post
            Regardless of what man made religious dogma advocates would like for the rest of their peers to believe......

            The "finger prints" of God are left all over fallen humanity.

            When I say "finger prints", I'm reference the residual things left intact by the creative actions of God in Adam before the his sin action in choosing His wife Eve.


            Finger Prints

            1. Innate rational intellect.
            2. Innate ability to hear, see, and speak.
            3. Innate ability to feel. Process feelings.

            There are many sub categories but we'll start with these three main points.

            1. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to reason. In fact, the Scriptures declare it.

            Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

            Notice the words "reason" and "together".

            Needless to say, God could have taken such intellect from Adam. He didn't. In this innate attribute all men are equal.


            2. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to hear, see and speak.

            All innate qualities of God Himself. God isn't deaf, blind or mutt.

            Needless to say, God could have taken such innate qualities from Adam. He didn't. In this innate qualities all men are equal.

            3. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to "feel"

            I know some would love to believe that God doesn't "feel" anything. Yet, love is a feeling. Peace is a feeling.

            Needless to say, God could have taken such innate feelings from Adam. He didn't. In this innate feelings all men are equal.


            Because of these "finger prints" left intact in our fallen nature through Adam, ANYONE can respond the Gospel message of Jesus Christ.

            The Gospel can be received and processed through all these innate qualities remaining in humanity.

            Thus, the message is always truly....

            John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
            What do you think about God's finger print in our DNA?
            There will be no weeping, only laughter. And as He invites us to come forward, well be prepared to rejoice in the thing we were all created to doto know and to love God as He has first loved us.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mccafferty1 View Post

              What do you think about God's finger print in our DNA?
              My speculation would be that God is a Spirit. DNA comes from "dirt". The "seed" of our bodily form.

              From the ashes of destruction and judgment of whatever was before us, God moved and formed man in His purpose. I've imagined that somewhere in the darkness, Satan watched as God took what Satan had destroyed and purposed it for GOOD in humanity with the creation of Adam.

              That is just my speculation. Probably the silly imaginations of an overactive mind.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post

                My speculation would be that God is a Spirit. DNA comes from "dirt". The "seed" of our bodily form.

                From the ashes of destruction and judgment of whatever was before us, God moved and formed man in His purpose. I've imagined that somewhere in the darkness, Satan watched as God took what Satan had destroyed and purposed it for GOOD in humanity with the creation of Adam.

                That is just my speculation. Probably the silly imaginations of an overactive mind.
                Ok thank you.
                There will be no weeping, only laughter. And as He invites us to come forward, well be prepared to rejoice in the thing we were all created to doto know and to love God as He has first loved us.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


                  Love is action despite feelings.


                  Too many people marry on feelings.
                  instead of being guided by God and using their brains.


                  Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post

                  Says people that don't really know what love is.
                  I continue to bring the word of God
                  to those who continue to produce acid posts.



                  Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post
                  At times love can be the self willed action of a prideful mind.
                  Do you now agree with me?

                  The Roman Canon will be threshed in the harvest.
                  angels .. will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend (Mt 13:41).

                  Christians will thereby be divided
                  into those who remain intoxicated on the harlotries of the papacy (Rev 17:2)

                  and those who can enter heaven, because they have a pure mind
                  for they recall only the foundational prophets and apostles (Eph 2:20, 2 Pet 3:1-2)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


                    Love is action despite feelings.


                    Too many people marry on feelings.
                    instead of being guided by God and using their brains.




                    I continue to bring the word of God
                    to those who continue to produce acid posts.





                    Do you now agree with me?
                    I'm not going to let you derail this thread. I'll start another thread with your comments.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post
                      Regardless of what man made religious dogma advocates would like for the rest of their peers to believe......

                      The "finger prints" of God are left all over fallen humanity.

                      When I say "finger prints", I'm reference the residual things left intact by the creative actions of God in Adam before the his sin action in choosing His wife Eve.


                      Finger Prints

                      1. Innate rational intellect.
                      2. Innate ability to hear, see, and speak.
                      3. Innate ability to feel. Process feelings.

                      There are many sub categories but we'll start with these three main points.

                      1. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to reason. In fact, the Scriptures declare it.

                      Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

                      Notice the words "reason" and "together".

                      Needless to say, God could have taken such intellect from Adam. He didn't. In this innate attribute all men are equal.


                      2. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to hear, see and speak.

                      All innate qualities of God Himself. God isn't deaf, blind or mutt.

                      Needless to say, God could have taken such innate qualities from Adam. He didn't. In this innate qualities all men are equal.

                      3. Any man, apart from birth defects or physical abnormalities, have the ability to "feel"

                      I know some would love to believe that God doesn't "feel" anything. Yet, love is a feeling. Peace is a feeling.

                      Needless to say, God could have taken such innate feelings from Adam. He didn't. In this innate feelings all men are equal.


                      Because of these "finger prints" left intact in our fallen nature through Adam, ANYONE can respond the Gospel message of Jesus Christ.

                      The Gospel can be received and processed through all these innate qualities remaining in humanity.

                      Thus, the message is always truly....

                      John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
                      Deuteronomy 29:4 "Yet the Lord has not given you a heart to perceive and eyes to see and ears to hear, to this very day."

                      Daniel 2:21 "He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding He reveals deep and secret things. I thank You and praise You, O God of my fathers; You have given me wisdom and might, And have now made known to me what we asked of You"


                      I suppose you could make the case a certain amount of residual "reason" remains from Adam, but I believe it's a bit of a stretch to claim belief in the gospel requires nothing more than this "reason" since the bible claims "ears" and "eyes" and a "heart" and wisdom" and knowledge" come to a person as a gift from God. So I'm not sure what you're point is.



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nebekednezzar View Post

                        Deuteronomy 29:4 "Yet the Lord has not given you a heart to perceive and eyes to see and ears to hear, to this very day."

                        Daniel 2:21 "He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding He reveals deep and secret things. I thank You and praise You, O God of my fathers; You have given me wisdom and might, And have now made known to me what we asked of You"

                        a. Why are you avoiding the points I gave? Are you conceding that these are innate and intrinsic attributes that remain in Adam that coming from the creative action of God to make man in His image?

                        Please answer this question clearly and concisely.

                        b. It is true that God does not grant all knowledge to everyone. I've never said otherwise and there are certainly those who know MORE than others in any given subject. However, what I listed IS granted to ENTIRETY of humanity and without restriction.


                        I suppose you could make the case a certain amount of residual "reason" remains from Adam, but I believe it's a bit of a stretch to claim belief in the gospel requires nothing more than this "reason" since the bible claims "ears" and "eyes" and a "heart" and wisdom" and knowledge" come to a person as a gift from God. So I'm not sure what you're point is.
                        There is no need to question my point. This nothing more than a typical Calvinist tactic to downplay other's commentary. You know what my point is. You know it to the degree you've posted Scriptures you believe are at odds with my comments. Your "ruse" is on full display in your response.

                        Your Calvinist reasoning is causing you issues. You have selectively picked verses from the Scriptures in an attempt to make the "Calvinist" cause for depravity. These verses do not address the points I made nor do they make the case that man is depraved to the point that he must be enlightened before exercising belief in the Gospel message.

                        All the innate attributes I listened enable a person to reason and accept the message of the Gospel through their own intrinsic qualities passed to them as the natural seed of Adam.

                        Please provide any Scripture that says otherwise or deny that all of humanity lack the innate qualities I listed above.



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post



                          Please answer this question clearly and concisely.

                          b. It is true that God does not grant all knowledge to everyone. I've never said otherwise and there are certainly those who know MORE than others in any given subject. However, what I listed IS granted to ENTIRETY of humanity and without restriction.




                          All the innate attributes I listened enable a person to reason and accept the message of the Gospel through their own intrinsic qualities passed to them as the natural seed of Adam.

                          Please provide any Scripture that says otherwise or deny that all of humanity lack the innate qualities I listed above.


                          Well......You ask me to answer your question clearly, but you don't even give a question.

                          But secondly, you're making the assumption that every single human can use they're residual "reason" to believe in the gospel, but you give no evidence for this..,,,,and your assumption is in spite of the fact that the bible states over and over that eyes, hears to hear, heart, wisdom and knowledge are gifts from God. So you're making an assumption that conflicts with scripture.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post



                            All the innate attributes I listened enable a person to reason and accept the message of the Gospel through their own intrinsic qualities passed to them as the natural seed of Adam.

                            Please provide any Scripture that says otherwise or deny that all of humanity lack the innate qualities I listed above.


                            1Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

                            There's the scripture you ask for.....
                            Last edited by Nebekednezzar; 10-17-18, 12:06 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nebekednezzar View Post

                              Well......You ask me to answer your question clearly, but you don't even give a question.
                              Rubbish. Read again.

                              Please provide any Scripture that says otherwise or deny that all of humanity lack the innate qualities I listed above.
                              But secondly, you're making the assumption that every single human can use they're residual "reason" to believe in the gospel, but you give no evidence for this..,,,,
                              What do you mean I give no evidence. This innate qualities testify of themselves. Our founding father witnessed to "self evident" truths "that all men are created equal." A self witnessing truth has the intrinsic innate quality of being self revealing.

                              I didn't realize that I had to argue the validity of basic human constructs..... Geesh.

                              and your assumption is in spite of the fact that the bible states over and over that eyes, hears to hear, heart, wisdom and knowledge are gifts from God.
                              You are misapply those verses and the ONLY verses you've quoted do NOT teach what you want the to teach.

                              I have witnessed in my OP that God has GIFTED MEN EQUAL in the points I made. You, in your comments witness that man is gifted. I say they are intrinsic qualities that remain within humanity from Adam being made in the image of God.

                              So you're making an assumption that conflicts with scripture.
                              Nonsense. Prove it.

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