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Calvin's Audacious Claim...

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  • #46
    Originally posted by skypair View Post
    He was CATHOLIC. What version did Catholics use? Even I can understand that if he went on to write commentary on the Bible, he would learn Greek, too. But he wasn't using the textus receptus to write The Institutes.


    I love that testimony! He was completely passive in receiving salvation, eh? Just like every good Calvinist who dares not pray to God repenting of sin and turning to God .. as the gospel commands (Acts 2:38, 3:19, 17:30, 26:20, etc.).


    Only the Holy Ghost can form anyone "to true godliness." Certainly not John Calvin. But you see, in his book, he is trying to do what only God can do, right? So if that is a quote from him, it is for sure that he is setting himself up as God.

    skypair
    Red bolding mine.

    Show evidence of a Calvinist who posts here, that states we do not have to repent. Otherwise, this is added to a long list of accusations without evidence.



    It is fundamentally necessary and healthy for Christians to acknowledge that God foreknows nothing uncertainly, but that He foresees, purposes, and does all things according to His own immutable, eternal and infallible will. This bombshell knocks "free-will" flatů

    Martin Luther The Bondage of the Will

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    • #47
      Originally posted by skypair View Post
      So whatever version he used, he corrupted it himself, eh? Figures.

      skypair
      Got any evidence to show the proof of your comment? I'm pretty sure that you don't. What do we call things that have no proof of?
      It is fundamentally necessary and healthy for Christians to acknowledge that God foreknows nothing uncertainly, but that He foresees, purposes, and does all things according to His own immutable, eternal and infallible will. This bombshell knocks "free-will" flatů

      Martin Luther The Bondage of the Will

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      • #48
        Originally posted by skypair View Post
        So whatever version he used, he corrupted it himself, eh? Figures.

        skypair
        What is your evidence that Calvin "corrupted" "whatever version he used"?

        I didn't mention this previously, but there is a theory that the reason the Bible version Calvin used can't be determined is that he simply translated himself from the original languages as he utilized the text.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by skypair View Post
          Like me, for instance.

          skypair
          What is your evidence that Calvin was not a Christian?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Conqueror

            **edited"


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            1. This isn't evidence, but rather opinion.

            2. I've never met anyone who claims to "follow Calvin."

            3. The question was not addressed to Conqueror.
            Last edited by Mod9; 12-25-18, 03:19 PM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by His clay View Post

              Even the most rudimentary understanding of the basics of the Protestant Reformation reveals that Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin were part of the Protestant Reformation, and thus they broke with the Catholic church. The very first sentence of the OP can't even get off the ground without being a blatant falsehood.
              the point is they broke with God.

              Not whether they are a house divided.....

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Conqueror

                A Carnal Calvinist used to say exactly the same,
                until he made a public display of his foot in mouth disease.

                I do not know what you're referring to with the snippet you posted, but I do know you are continuing to give your opinion rather than evidence, Theo1689 does not "follow Calvin," and finally, the question I posed above was not directed toward you.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Conqueror

                  The carnality in both poster's statements is a proven fact.

                  .
                  Once again, you state your opinion. Your opinion is just that: your opinion. I'm not interested in discussing who Conqueror thinks is "carnal." Please feel free to move on to another discussion in which someone actually cares about your opinion. Maybe you could find a discussion elsewhere in which those of your sort of spirituality can make value judgments about people.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Conqueror

                    Calvinists are so carnal
                    that they think that the word of God is my opinion.
                    If you think your opinion is the word of God.... logically, that's your opinion.

                    I did not ask anywhere above on describing the alleged carnality of particular individuals here on CARM, nor on whether or not your anonymous CARM posts are the "word of God." If you want to discuss those subjects, please start your own discussion on those topics.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

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                      Last edited by Mod12; 12-25-18, 09:09 AM.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

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                        If you want to talk about the carnality of this or that person, I suggest starting your own thread. I'm not interested in trying to determine which anonymous people that participate here are, or are not, "carnal."
                        Last edited by Mod12; 12-25-18, 09:07 AM.

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                        • #57
                          edit per mod
                          Last edited by Mod12; 12-25-18, 09:06 AM. Reason: Divisive

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                          • #58

                            If you want to discuss who you think is "carnal," I suggest going elsewhere. I asked a specific question a few hours ago, and your topic in regard to discussing particular CARM participants personally, while absolutely fascinating, is not relevant to this discussion.
                            Last edited by Mod12; 12-25-18, 09:06 AM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by James Swan
                              What is your evidence that Calvin was not a Christian?
                              He was a Christian all right .. he "had a name that lives but are dead." (Rev 3:1, Sardis) This is what Christ thought of the Reformation churches. They had the name b/c they believed the gospel but they were dead because they didn't obey it (Acts 2:38) nor did they teach others to obey it. They went to the opposite extreme from the Catholics. They wouldn't do anything in order to be saved.

                              skypair

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by skypair View Post
                                He was a Christian all right .. he "had a name that lives but are dead." (Rev 3:1, Sardis) This is what Christ thought of the Reformation churches. They had the name b/c they believed the gospel but they were dead because they didn't obey it (Acts 2:38) nor did they teach others to obey it. They went to the opposite extreme from the Catholics. They wouldn't do anything in order to be saved.

                                skypair
                                Salvation by works is not Christian; that is why the Reformers rejected your kind of false teaching (as do all genuine Christians).
                                John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

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