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  • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

    Here is what God states:

    The Lord God is one Lord! It would have to be three Lords if they are three persons (souls) or you are dealing with concepts the scriptures do not teach. That is what the trinity doctrine does.

    God is logical but the trinity doctrine is not!

    God bless you,

    SeventhDay
    John 1:1-2 (KJV)
    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    John 17:5 (KJV)
    5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

    not as you but with you
    Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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    • Originally posted by TomL View Post

      John 1:1-2 (KJV)
      1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
      2 The same was in the beginning with God.

      John 17:5 (KJV)
      5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

      not as you but with you
      Explain how God is three persons is logical?

      God bless you,

      SeventhDay

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      • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

        Explain how God is three persons is logical?

        God bless you,

        SeventhDay
        Tom replies

        God is not bound by man's logic of what he is like

        For that you have to read his revelation

        One God three persons
        Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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        • Originally posted by TomL View Post

          Tom replies

          God is not bound by man's logic of what he is like

          For that you have to read his revelation

          One God three persons
          Who is discussing man's logic? Does not God reason with man and can man listen to God who reasons with him? Can God persuade us logically? "Is let us reason together" logical?

          God bless you,

          SeventhDay

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          • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

            Who is discussing man's logic? Does not God reason with man and can man listen to God who reasons with him? Can God persuade us logically? "Is let us reason together" logical?

            God bless you,

            SeventhDay
            Tom replies

            I believe you were

            Again if man could explain God he would be God but he is not

            Special revelation reveals his nature

            One God three persons
            Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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            • Originally posted by TomL View Post

              Tom replies

              I believe you were

              Again if man could explain God he would be God but he is not

              Special revelation reveals his nature

              One God three persons
              What does one do when they have God's life in them? How is one able to please God without life?

              This is how we reason with God's nature at work in us. Is this of God or of man?

              God is one person who gives his life to us not three persons with three lives to give us!

              Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
              One person who had life not three!

              God who gives us life is one person!

              God bless you,

              SeventhDay



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              • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

                What does one do when they have God's life in them? How is one able to please God without life?

                This is how we reason with God's nature at work in us. Is this of God or of man?

                God is one person who gives his life to us not three persons with three lives to give us!



                One person who had life not three!

                God who gives us life is one person!

                God bless you,

                SeventhDay


                Tom replies

                The Father is not the Son

                The son is not the Father

                The Son went to the cross

                The Father did not

                The Son became a man

                The Father did not

                The son was with the Father

                The Son tasted death for everyman

                The Father did not taste death

                The son had glory with the Father

                The son is not the Father

                The Father is not the son
                Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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                • Originally posted by TomL View Post

                  Tom replies

                  The Father is not the Son

                  The son is not the Father

                  The Son went to the cross

                  The Father did not

                  The Son became a man

                  The Father did not

                  The son was with the Father

                  The Son tasted death for everyman

                  The Father did not taste death

                  The son had glory with the Father

                  The son is not the Father

                  The Father is not the son
                  God in roles is who ever he wants to be and Jesus the Logos who is God made flesh.

                  There you go!

                  One God who has roles and is not three persons.

                  One is one and not three!

                  There you go!

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                  • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

                    God in roles is who ever he wants to be and Jesus the Logos who is God made flesh.

                    There you go!

                    One God who has roles and is not three persons.

                    One is one and not three!

                    There you go!
                    Tom replies

                    Nope no roles

                    Persons

                    The person with another person is not roles but two persons

                    Tom replies

                    The Father is not the Son

                    The son is not the Father

                    The Son went to the cross

                    The Father did not

                    The Son became a man

                    The Father did not

                    The son was with the Father

                    The Son tasted death for everyman

                    The Father did not taste death

                    The son had glory with the Father

                    The son is not the Father

                    The Father is not the son
                    Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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                    • Originally posted by TomL View Post

                      Tom replies

                      Nope no roles

                      Persons

                      The person with another person is not roles but two persons

                      Tom replies

                      The Father is not the Son

                      The son is not the Father

                      The Son went to the cross

                      The Father did not

                      The Son became a man

                      The Father did not

                      The son was with the Father

                      The Son tasted death for everyman

                      The Father did not taste death

                      The son had glory with the Father

                      The son is not the Father

                      The Father is not the son
                      Roles with roles and not persons with persons because God is one person not three!

                      The Lord God is one Lord!

                      Can you count?

                      God bless you,

                      SeventhDay

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                      • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

                        Roles with roles and not persons with persons because God is one person not three!

                        The Lord God is one Lord!

                        Can you count?

                        God bless you,

                        SeventhDay
                        Tom replies

                        One role cannot be with another role

                        Persons
                        Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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                        • Originally posted by TomL View Post

                          Tom replies

                          One role cannot be with another role

                          Persons
                          Of course one can be with other roles and be with their self.

                          You are perhaps a brother and perhaps a father so you have two roles when you are with your son and with your brothers. Your roles do not make you or your roles go away!

                          God bless you,

                          SeventhDay

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                          • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

                            Of course one can be with other roles and be with their self.

                            You are perhaps a brother and perhaps a father so you have two roles when you are with your son and with your brothers. Your roles do not make you or your roles go away!

                            God bless you,

                            SeventhDay
                            Not when one is with another

                            Let me ask you though why do you choose to discuss this issue here ?

                            There is forum where posters have a mind set which desires to discuss such things.

                            Wouldn't you be better served discussing the issue there ?
                            Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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                            • Originally posted by TomL View Post

                              Not when one is with another

                              Let me ask you though why do you choose to discuss this issue here ?

                              There is forum where posters have a mind set which desires to discuss such things.

                              Wouldn't you be better served discussing the issue there ?
                              I am willing to discuss scriptures any where even in hell!

                              However, I do not want to derail the OP!

                              God bless you,

                              SeventhDay

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                              • Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

                                I am willing to discuss scriptures any where even in hell!

                                However, I do not want to derail the OP!

                                God bless you,

                                SeventhDay
                                Tom replies

                                how have you not derailed ops by introducing your doctrine into a foreign context

                                What has it to do with an Arminian - Calvinism discussion
                                Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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