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A Few Bondage... Definitions

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  • A Few Bondage... Definitions

    Luther defines Free will as "is not a certain small degree of endeavor or desire only, but a full and free ability and power to do all things, without the grace God and without the Holy Spirit." First, I don't know anyone who realizes this is what he meant vs. what we see as the exercise of the will in the Bible (Deut 30:19, for instance). No one, for instance, thinks they can be saved without having the Spirit, that is, without believing the word of God (see below) and the gospel. And The Spirit is the grace of God.

    "Thus it pleased God -- not to give the Spirit without the Word, but through the Word..." BINGO! Believing the Word is receiving the Spirit .. and that is the "power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes..." the Word. (Ro 1:16)

    Again, "For in the New Testament, The gospel is preached ... by which are offered unto us the Spirit, grace;..." Do you now see where I come up with what I say about Spirit = grace = the Word of God? And, of course, EVERY Calvinist will admit that if they have the Spirit and grace, they have the ABILITY to believe and be saved, right?

    The problem is that belief doesn't save! And so having the Spirit doesn't regenerate either!

    skypair

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    Are you getting this, Calvies? It is obvious that everyone who has heard the gospel has the Spirit and grace of God, the power of God, with which to freely choose salvation .. or condemnation -- "life and blessings, death and cursing" per Deut 30:19.

    skypair

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    • #3
      Originally posted by skypair View Post
      Are you getting this, Calvies? It is obvious that everyone who has heard the gospel has the Spirit and grace of God, the power of God, with which to freely choose salvation .. or condemnation -- "life and blessings, death and cursing" per Deut 30:19.

      skypair
      Obviously, you haven't convinced anyone of your false teachings.
      "We are not to understand the other side; we are to discuss to expound the truth." -- A misguided apologist
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      "The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation,
      but washes you upon the Rock of Ages."
      -- Charles Haddon Spurgeon

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Theo1689 View Post
        Obviously, you haven't convinced anyone of your false teachings.
        That's OK. These facts are kind of a conversation stopper, aren't they? Only Calvinists think that they are "particularly called" by the gospel.

        By the way, you ought to change your avatar pic to Luther .. you argue just like him in "Bondage of the Will".

        skypair

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        • #5
          Originally posted by skypair View Post

          That's OK. These facts are kind of a conversation stopper, aren't they?
          <Chuckle>

          I've seen many things in your posts.

          But one thing that has NEVER been in your posts are "facts".

          Only Calvinists think that they are "particularly called" by the gospel.
          Another FALSE CLAIM by you.
          Why do you think it is proper to MISREPRESENT others?

          By the way, you ought to change your avatar pic to Luther .. you argue just like him in "Bondage of the Will".
          Luther was a wonderful Christian (albeit with flaws), who understood the gospel a thousand times better than you do.
          "We are not to understand the other side; we are to discuss to expound the truth." -- A misguided apologist
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          "The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation,
          but washes you upon the Rock of Ages."
          -- Charles Haddon Spurgeon

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          • #6
            Originally posted by skypair View Post

            That's OK. These facts are kind of a conversation stopper, aren't they? Only Calvinists think that they are "particularly called" by the gospel.

            By the way, you ought to change your avatar pic to Luther .. you argue just like him in "Bondage of the Will".

            skypair
            Facts can be a conversation stopper but those aren't really facts. I rarely talk with you not because of your facts but because the lack there of; and due to the meaningless of the effort lost in the vanity...
            Isaiah 53:10-11 NKJV 'When You make His soul an offering for sin, God shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.'

            Providence ~ The red headed Stepchild of Contemporary Theologians...
            New-Protestant Reformation Dec 2009

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