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    A Calvinist could not have chosen NOT to believe the gospel, eh? And not to receive regeneration, salvation, faith, etc. How would they prove such a thing?

    skypair

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    Originally posted by skypair View Post
    A Calvinist could not have chosen NOT to believe the gospel, eh? And not to receive regeneration, salvation, faith, etc. How would they prove such a thing?

    skypair
    It's only "Theology".

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    • #3
      Originally posted by skypair View Post
      A Calvinist could not have chosen NOT to believe the gospel, eh? And not to receive regeneration, salvation, faith, etc. How would they prove such a thing?

      skypair
      1) Why do we even NEED to? Nobody's forcing you to become a Calvinist. So why are you trying to goad us into trying to get you to "believe" something you've made perfectly clear you don't want to believe, and we're not interested in trying to change your mind?

      2) Read the Bible. THAT will "prove" it to you.
      "We are not to understand the other side; we are to discuss to expound the truth." -- A misguided apologist
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      "The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation,
      but washes you upon the Rock of Ages."
      -- Charles Haddon Spurgeon

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      • #4
        Originally posted by skypair View Post
        A Calvinist could not have chosen NOT to believe the gospel, eh? And not to receive regeneration, salvation, faith, etc. How would they prove such a thing?

        skypair
        I like being Gods puppet...I wish I were better at it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Theo1689 View Post

          1) Why do we even NEED to? Nobody's forcing you to become a Calvinist. So why are you trying to goad us into trying to get you to "believe" something you've made perfectly clear you don't want to believe, and we're not interested in trying to change your mind?

          2) Read the Bible. THAT will "prove" it to you.
          Unless, of course, it doesn't. "Calvinism" isn't the ONLY systematic. There are others.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Theo1689 View Post

            1) Why do we even NEED to? Nobody's forcing you to become a Calvinist. So why are you trying to goad us into trying to get you to "believe" something you've made perfectly clear you don't want to believe, and we're not interested in trying to change your mind?
            If God is the determiner of all things then God determines the non Calvinist to not be a Calvinist

            Any idea why that might be ?



            Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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            • #7
              Originally posted by skypair View Post
              A Calvinist could not have chosen NOT to believe the gospel, eh?
              Neither could any other Christian. Calvinists are not unique in that regard.
              Originally posted by skypair View Post
              And not to receive regeneration, salvation, faith, etc. How would they prove such a thing?

              skypair
              I choose to believe the gospel throughout every day. I have received regeneration and as a consequence have faith by which I work out my salvation knowing it is God who works in me to will and to act on behalf of His good pleasure.

              No one can prove their salvation to another so that question is just dumb. At best it betrays a failure to understand the oxymoronic nature of "proving" one's salvation. Similarly, no one can prove a negative, either. So proving what one cannot not choose is foolishness. We have, of course, come, to expect such nonsense from you, skypair.

              Just a little bit of thought would have prevented this nonsense of an op from being posted. Now posters will argue tangential stuff and this op will Fail all the same.
              All verses cited or quoted or in the NAS unless otherwise noted.

              “if anyone competes as an athlete, he does not win the prize unless he competes according to the rules.” (2 Tim. 2:5)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by skypair View Post
                A Calvinist could not have chosen NOT to believe the gospel, eh? And not to receive regeneration, salvation, faith, etc. How would they prove such a thing?

                skypair
                Lol

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                  I like being Gods puppet...I wish I were better at it.
                  A ventriloquist's doll, who doesn't know who is using him.


                  .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TomL View Post

                    If God is the determiner of all things then God determines the non Calvinist to not be a Calvinist

                    Any idea why that might be ?


                    No opinion ?
                    Let God's word speak and everyman be silent

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by skypair View Post
                      A Calvinist could not have chosen NOT to believe the gospel, eh? And not to receive regeneration, salvation, faith, etc. How would they prove such a thing?

                      skypair
                      You know that we're Sola Scripturists, and a primary definition of it is that the Bible is the highest and final arbiter of all spiritual disputes...

                      Pentecostalism is not...
                      New-Protestant Reformation ~ Dec 2009 - ____

                      I'm a Christian. An Evangelical, Reformed, Independent Fundamental Baptist; a New Calvinist...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CrowCross View Post
                        I like being Gods puppet...I wish I were better at it.
                        Of course, that just shows that you are NOT His puppet, eh?

                        skypair

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by skypair View Post
                          Of course, that just shows that you are NOT His puppet, eh?

                          skypair
                          He was being Clever; at least that's how I took it...
                          New-Protestant Reformation ~ Dec 2009 - ____

                          I'm a Christian. An Evangelical, Reformed, Independent Fundamental Baptist; a New Calvinist...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Josheb View Post
                            Neither could any other Christian. Calvinists are not unique in that regard.
                            Really? So Christians can't choose not to believe God? or not to believe in Jesus Christ?

                            I choose to believe the gospel throughout every day. I have received regeneration and as a consequence have faith by which I work out my salvation knowing it is God who works in me to will and to act on behalf of His good pleasure.
                            How do you know you have received regeneration? Do you know that if you believe the gospel and the Bible, that you have received the Spirit of God .. but are still not saved?

                            No one can prove their salvation to another so that question is just dumb.
                            Maybe .. but do you know that, in the mustard tree, the birds that nest there are pretty obvious? It is pretty obvious that they don't belong in the tree, Josh. It's not like tare among the wheat of the OT Judaism. Man-made theologies stick out like sore thumbs. I am sure that you are aware of this as you look around the "church scene," aren't you?

                            Similarly, no one can prove a negative, either. So proving what one cannot not choose is foolishness.
                            I thought about that .. but I decided that there is a difference between belief and faith that might be missed by those who answer. Sure, we know that those who believe are convinced to believe .. but they can choose not to put their faith in Christ .. instead choosing to believe their own theology.

                            skypair

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by skypair View Post
                              Of course, that just shows that you are NOT His puppet, eh?

                              skypair
                              eh?

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