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Total Depravity is absurd, when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies

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  • Total Depravity is absurd, when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies


    For if when we were enemies
    we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
    .... (Rom 5:10)

    There can be no case for Total Depravity,
    when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

    The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.


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    The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
    Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

  • #2
    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
    For if when we were enemies
    we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
    .... (Rom 5:10)

    There can be no case for Total Depravity,
    when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

    The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.


    .

    Originally posted by ttruscott View Post

    On the other hand I tend to accept that if our ability to choose is abrogated (constrained, coerced) in the least by any outside influence or by an addiction to sin or any external determination, we do not have free will. I therefore do not allow sinners a free will ...........
    Paul in Romans 5:10 explains,
    that those who are afflicted by an addiction to sin
    were reconciled to God through the death of His Son.

    Calvinism's tenet of Total Depravity is a deception from hell.





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    Last edited by Conqueror; 02-15-19, 02:13 AM.
    The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
    Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
      For if when we were enemies
      we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
      .... (Rom 5:10)

      There can be no case for Total Depravity,
      when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

      The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.


      .

      Originally posted by Sketo View Post

      Ephesians 2:3 says that mankind are by nature children of wrath...
      That didn't affect Paul's justification by faith.

      But I see another law in my members,
      warring against the law of my mind,
      and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin
      which is in my members
      . (Romans 7:23)





      For if when we were enemies
      we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son ..........
      (Rom 5:10)


      40.1 καταλλάσσω; καταλλαγή, ῆς; ἀποκαταλλάσσω; συναλλάσσω:
      to reestablish proper friendly interpersonal relations
      after these have been disrupted or broken -
      ‘to reconcile, to make things right with one another,
      reconciliation.’ (Louw & Nida)


      Christ's reconciliation exposes Calvin's tenet of Total Depravity as deception.


      .
      The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
      Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Conqueror View Post





        There is no case for Total Depravity, when the death of Jesus

        restored God's relationship with men
        like it was before the fall.



        This might be the cause of your misunderstanding!
        2 Timothy 2:24-26

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

          For if when we were enemies
          we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
          .... (Rom 5:10)

          There can be no case for Total Depravity,
          when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

          The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.

          Originally posted by Sketo View Post

          This might be the cause of your misunderstanding!
          A deceived Calvinist is in no position to lecture about the truth.


          .
          The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
          Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
            Paul in Romans 5:10 explains,
            that those who are afflicted by an addiction to sin
            were reconciled to God through the death of His Son.
            Oh? John 3:18 explains that sinful believers are never condemned but sinful UNbelievers are condemned already for their unbelief...Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. All sinners are addicted to sin...only the elect sinners are not condemned.

            Calvinism's tenet of Total Depravity is a deception from hell.
            Arminianism's tenet of sinners having a free will is a hellish deception.



            I champion GOD’s holiness:
            - GOD did not need evil so did not create evil for any reason.
            - Evil is creature-created by their free will.

            I champion Our Free will:
            - All were created with a free will able to chose for HIM or against HIM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

              For if when we were enemies
              we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
              .... (Rom 5:10)

              There can be no case for Total Depravity,
              when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

              The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.
              Originally posted by ttruscott View Post

              Oh? John 3:18 explains that sinful believers are never condemned but sinful UNbelievers are condemned already for their unbelief...Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. All sinners are addicted to sin...only the elect sinners are not condemned.

              Arminianism's tenet of sinners having a free will is a hellish deception.



              Unbelievers don't accept that they were reconciled to God
              through the death of His Son
              .... (Rom 5:10),
              which requires them to turn to Jesus to receive life (John 5:40).

              Calvinists don't believe that either to preach a false gospel.


              .





              The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
              Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                For if when we were enemies
                we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
                .... (Rom 5:10)

                There can be no case for Total Depravity,
                when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

                The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.


                .

                Originally posted by Johan View Post

                Our sins were carried by Christ onto the cross and forgiven there.

                He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. (Col. 2:13-14)
                Another Calvinist is confronted with the reality of Calvin's deception.




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                The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                  For if when we were enemies
                  we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
                  .... (Rom 5:10)

                  There can be no case for Total Depravity,
                  when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

                  The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.


                  .

                  Originally posted by Calsgal View Post

                  Are you free to choose what is not available to you as a choice?
                  God's enemies were reconciled on the cross,
                  which requires an unfettered response (John 5:40).

                  Those who are mastered by Calvin believe,
                  that they are Totally Depraved.


                  .
                  The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                  Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post



                    God's enemies were reconciled on the cross,
                    which requires an unfettered response (John 5:40).

                    Those who are mastered by Calvin believe,
                    that they are Totally Depraved.


                    .
                    Can a man raised in a Buddhist culture and never meeting a Christian choose Christ?
                    Have I now become your enemy because I tell you the truth ? Gal 4:16

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                    • #11

                      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


                      God's enemies were reconciled on the cross,
                      which requires an unfettered response (John 5:40).

                      Those who are mastered by Calvin believe,
                      that they are Totally Depraved.

                      Originally posted by Calsgal View Post

                      Can a man raised in a Buddhist culture and never meeting a Christian choose Christ?
                      That Buddhist was reconciled to God
                      through the sufficient sacrifice of Jesus
                      and can therefore call on God to be saved.

                      Romans 10:13 (NKJV)

                      For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
                      The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                      Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                        For if when we were enemies
                        we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
                        .... (Rom 5:10)

                        There can be no case for Total Depravity,
                        when the death of Jesus reconciled his unbelieving enemies.

                        The Calvo deception has been properly refuted.


                        .

                        Originally posted by Josheb View Post
                        ......... Calvinism teaches God ordains all things from creation without causing violence to human will or secondary causes.
                        God's enemies were reconciled on the cross,
                        which requires an unfettered response (John 5:40).

                        God ordained the grace of the sacrifice of Jesus,
                        which is accessed by the faith of the individual.

                        Take it or leave it.



                        .
                        The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                        Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post





                          That Buddhist was reconciled to God
                          through the sufficient sacrifice of Jesus
                          and can therefore call on God to be saved.

                          Romans 10:13 (NKJV)

                          For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
                          You can not call on the name if you do not know it.. .
                          Have I now become your enemy because I tell you the truth ? Gal 4:16

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                          • #14

                            Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                            That Buddhist was reconciled to God
                            through the sufficient sacrifice of Jesus
                            and can therefore call on God to be saved.

                            Romans 10:13 (NKJV)

                            For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

                            Originally posted by Calsgal View Post

                            You can not call on the name if you do not know it.. .
                            a person, with the possible implication of existence
                            or relevance as individuals [Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996)]


                            Calling on the person of God to acknowledge
                            that He exists is all that is needed.

                            Remember that the Buddhist was reconciled.

                            .
                            For if when we were enemies
                            we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son
                            .... (Rom 5:10)
                            The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                            Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                              a person, with the possible implication of existence
                              or relevance as individuals [Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996)


                              Calling on the person of God to acknowledge
                              that He exists is all that is needed.

                              .
                              How RC of you

                              "Romans10:14 How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? 15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”

                              “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”(Acts 4 :12)







                              Have I now become your enemy because I tell you the truth ? Gal 4:16

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