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    I have observed that with some people there is spiritual insanity over interpretations for Bible Prophecies is taking place here. But what is spiritual insanity?

    Spiritual Insanity is a type of mental impairment or spiritual madness where our thinking becomes unbalanced, unsound and even delusional. It is actually a term "gleaned" from the Scripture where someone has the spirit of Satan wherein they are viewed as not in their right mind, and thus by implication, insane. In Scripture, God uses insanity as a portrait of the unsound or actually unreasonable behavior of the unsaved who are in bondage to the Devil. You've heard people who are struggling with some sin or personal issues, etc., viewed as "those who are struggling with their Demons?". Well, that's not entirely an unbiblical idiom. Because in Scripture physical insanity was used by God as a symbol of one whose mind was spiritually ill or sick, being in bondage to Satan's delusion. God uses man's mental maladies to illustrate they are spiritually fools, simpletons or insanity in Scripture to paint a portrait of those who spiritually do not think or act with sound reasoning. By being deceived by Satan their mind is "not right" as it is a slave to confusion and turmoil. And this is where we get the term "Spiritual Insanity." It is a spiritual disorder of the mind that comes from having a spirit of delusion, a type of spiritual psychosis of those whose mind is not set free in Christ. In Spiritual insanity the truth seems like a lie and what is sound seems unsound, what is right seems wrong, the mind is in total spiritual confusion.

    2nd Timothy 1:7
    • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
    The opposite of the sound or sober mind of true Christians is spiritual insanity. It is when the spirit is not right and one's mind is not sober or sound. For example, Christ miraculously healed a man that was insane, which (like all of the physical miracles Christ did) painted this portrait of God's miraculous power to bring healing to the spiritually sick mind through the efficacy of His death and resurrection. For example, the physical miraculous healing of the insane man was a "sign" or token of the Spiritual healing of our spiritual insanity. e.g.:

    Mark 5:1-8
    • "And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
    • And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
    • Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
    • Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
    • And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
    • But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
    • And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
    • For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit."
    God uses the demon's control over the mind of this man as a picture of mankind before they are set free of bondage to Satan. The man who was "not in his right mind" was an insane man divinely used of Christ as a token of all those in bondage to the Devil and who dwell in the tombs (presence of death) and who are spiritually as a wild and raging beast that cannot be tamed. Christ's healing of this man is illustrative of the power of God to bring the peace of a sound mind to the Spiritually Insane. This man was miraculously healed as a sign to illustrate Christ's miraculous power in salvation.

    Mark 5:15
    • "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid."
    Here again, we see the possession of the Devil equated to being unsaved and out of his mind, whereas Christ's healing removes the Devil and heals the sin-sick mind. The man was set free of the Devil and given a sober mind, a right mind, the mind of Christ in His blessed hope.

    1st Peter 1:13
    • "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
    When we are saved we are Spiritually clothed in the righteousness of Christ and the sober mind is the right mind. A mind where spiritually (in our right mind) the Devil has been cast out of us. In its pragmatic sense, spiritual insanity is the worldly unsound aversion to reconciliation with God, a mindless rejection of receiving the truth and righteousness, a fool's errand to remain in bondage to the Devil and sin. We could just as easily call it a spiritual foolishness or a spiritual delusion, but it's all pointing to the same unsound spiritual condition or disorder.

    2nd Thessalonians 2:9-13
    • "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    • And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    • And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    • That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    • But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
    Spiritual delusion or spiritual insanity, the mind that is fooled, beguiled or duped. The moral of this story of 2nd Thessalonians, not all in the church will receive the truth in love because many don't love the truth. They love self-justification over truth. This strong delusion is a spirit of fraudulence where one a mind that allows them to believe sinful man's lies and deceptions. In practical terms, it is a spirit of straying from orthodoxy or sound Christian principles in this rejection of the truth. How many times have you seen this realized? You witness to someone the obvious and unadulterated truth of Scripture (word for word), and yet they reject God's word of truth for man-made interpretations? That's exactly what that passage says, they just won't receive the truth in love. Truly, they don't really know what love is, because to them truth appears loveless, judgmental and arrogant.

    These passages are divinely inspired of God to have us recognize the spiritual delusion in the bondage of the Devil. In its truest form, delusion is nothing but man's own deceitful will that moves him to dishonestly work against the truth. The spirit of the beast makes them spiritually insane, their mind being in spiritual slavery.

    By contrast, that last verse reiterates the truth of the sober thinking Christian:

    2nd Thessalonians 2:13
    • "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
    Beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. Therein is the difference between the Elect of the church blessed with sound minds that believe the truth when they hear it, and the false or pseudo Christians or professed Christians with unsound minds deluded to trample the truth underfoot in their zeal to justify themselves and their own will. Why? Because unlike the insane man God healed, God did not truly through the Spirit give them a right/sound mind. They merely took His name upon themselves, but never His Spirit. Again:

    2nd Timothy 1:7
    • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
    The Spirit is the power of a sound mind. Christians are to be sober-minded, as opposed to having a mind of fearfulness and of confusion and unrest and turmoil, which is this type of spiritual disorder. Spiritual insanity is the secret persona of the Devil within man that provokes and causes fear and unrest where people are careful of many things, the least of which is service to God. Perfect love casts out fear.

    To start posting about a physical war with national Israel, looking for the antichrist, rebuilt third temple, the rapture before the great tribulation, etc. based on what they heard in the news are NOT supported by Scripture, are an example of spiritual insanity. Why? Because they are deceived by false prophets who brought theses lies into the Church.

  • #2
    Originally posted by TribulationSigns View Post
    To start posting about a physical war with national Israel, looking for the antichrist, rebuilt third temple, the rapture before the great tribulation, etc. based on what they heard in the news are NOT supported by Scripture, are an example of spiritual insanity. Why? Because they are deceived by false prophets who brought theses lies into the Church.
    That's called Newspaper Eschatology.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by UnionofGrace&Nature View Post
      That's called Newspaper Eschatology.
      Indeed!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TribulationSigns View Post
        I have observed that with some people there is spiritual insanity over interpretations for Bible Prophecies is taking place here. But what is spiritual insanity?

        Spiritual Insanity is a type of mental impairment or spiritual madness where our thinking becomes unbalanced, unsound and even delusional. It is actually a term "gleaned" from the Scripture where someone has the spirit of Satan wherein they are viewed as not in their right mind, and thus by implication, insane. In Scripture, God uses insanity as a portrait of the unsound or actually unreasonable behavior of the unsaved who are in bondage to the Devil. You've heard people who are struggling with some sin or personal issues, etc., viewed as "those who are struggling with their Demons?". Well, that's not entirely an unbiblical idiom. Because in Scripture physical insanity was used by God as a symbol of one whose mind was spiritually ill or sick, being in bondage to Satan's delusion. God uses man's mental maladies to illustrate they are spiritually fools, simpletons or insanity in Scripture to paint a portrait of those who spiritually do not think or act with sound reasoning. By being deceived by Satan their mind is "not right" as it is a slave to confusion and turmoil. And this is where we get the term "Spiritual Insanity." It is a spiritual disorder of the mind that comes from having a spirit of delusion, a type of spiritual psychosis of those whose mind is not set free in Christ. In Spiritual insanity the truth seems like a lie and what is sound seems unsound, what is right seems wrong, the mind is in total spiritual confusion.

        2nd Timothy 1:7
        • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
        The opposite of the sound or sober mind of true Christians is spiritual insanity. It is when the spirit is not right and one's mind is not sober or sound. For example, Christ miraculously healed a man that was insane, which (like all of the physical miracles Christ did) painted this portrait of God's miraculous power to bring healing to the spiritually sick mind through the efficacy of His death and resurrection. For example, the physical miraculous healing of the insane man was a "sign" or token of the Spiritual healing of our spiritual insanity. e.g.:

        Mark 5:1-8
        • "And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
        • And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
        • Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
        • Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
        • And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
        • But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
        • And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
        • For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit."
        God uses the demon's control over the mind of this man as a picture of mankind before they are set free of bondage to Satan. The man who was "not in his right mind" was an insane man divinely used of Christ as a token of all those in bondage to the Devil and who dwell in the tombs (presence of death) and who are spiritually as a wild and raging beast that cannot be tamed. Christ's healing of this man is illustrative of the power of God to bring the peace of a sound mind to the Spiritually Insane. This man was miraculously healed as a sign to illustrate Christ's miraculous power in salvation.

        Mark 5:15
        • "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid."
        Here again, we see the possession of the Devil equated to being unsaved and out of his mind, whereas Christ's healing removes the Devil and heals the sin-sick mind. The man was set free of the Devil and given a sober mind, a right mind, the mind of Christ in His blessed hope.

        1st Peter 1:13
        • "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
        When we are saved we are Spiritually clothed in the righteousness of Christ and the sober mind is the right mind. A mind where spiritually (in our right mind) the Devil has been cast out of us. In its pragmatic sense, spiritual insanity is the worldly unsound aversion to reconciliation with God, a mindless rejection of receiving the truth and righteousness, a fool's errand to remain in bondage to the Devil and sin. We could just as easily call it a spiritual foolishness or a spiritual delusion, but it's all pointing to the same unsound spiritual condition or disorder.

        2nd Thessalonians 2:9-13
        • "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
        • And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
        • And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
        • That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
        • But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
        Spiritual delusion or spiritual insanity, the mind that is fooled, beguiled or duped. The moral of this story of 2nd Thessalonians, not all in the church will receive the truth in love because many don't love the truth. They love self-justification over truth. This strong delusion is a spirit of fraudulence where one a mind that allows them to believe sinful man's lies and deceptions. In practical terms, it is a spirit of straying from orthodoxy or sound Christian principles in this rejection of the truth. How many times have you seen this realized? You witness to someone the obvious and unadulterated truth of Scripture (word for word), and yet they reject God's word of truth for man-made interpretations? That's exactly what that passage says, they just won't receive the truth in love. Truly, they don't really know what love is, because to them truth appears loveless, judgmental and arrogant.

        These passages are divinely inspired of God to have us recognize the spiritual delusion in the bondage of the Devil. In its truest form, delusion is nothing but man's own deceitful will that moves him to dishonestly work against the truth. The spirit of the beast makes them spiritually insane, their mind being in spiritual slavery.

        By contrast, that last verse reiterates the truth of the sober thinking Christian:

        2nd Thessalonians 2:13
        • "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
        Beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. Therein is the difference between the Elect of the church blessed with sound minds that believe the truth when they hear it, and the false or pseudo Christians or professed Christians with unsound minds deluded to trample the truth underfoot in their zeal to justify themselves and their own will. Why? Because unlike the insane man God healed, God did not truly through the Spirit give them a right/sound mind. They merely took His name upon themselves, but never His Spirit. Again:

        2nd Timothy 1:7
        • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
        The Spirit is the power of a sound mind. Christians are to be sober-minded, as opposed to having a mind of fearfulness and of confusion and unrest and turmoil, which is this type of spiritual disorder. Spiritual insanity is the secret persona of the Devil within man that provokes and causes fear and unrest where people are careful of many things, the least of which is service to God. Perfect love casts out fear.

        To start posting about a physical war with national Israel, looking for the antichrist, rebuilt third temple, the rapture before the great tribulation, etc. based on what they heard in the news are NOT supported by Scripture, are an example of spiritual insanity. Why? Because they are deceived by false prophets who brought theses lies into the Church.
        I would just add it's also Spiritual Laziness.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TribulationSigns View Post
          I have observed that with some people there is spiritual insanity over interpretations for Bible Prophecies is taking place here. But what is spiritual insanity?

          Spiritual Insanity is a type of mental impairment or spiritual madness where our thinking becomes unbalanced, unsound and even delusional. It is actually a term "gleaned" from the Scripture where someone has the spirit of Satan wherein they are viewed as not in their right mind, and thus by implication, insane. In Scripture, God uses insanity as a portrait of the unsound or actually unreasonable behavior of the unsaved who are in bondage to the Devil. You've heard people who are struggling with some sin or personal issues, etc., viewed as "those who are struggling with their Demons?". Well, that's not entirely an unbiblical idiom. Because in Scripture physical insanity was used by God as a symbol of one whose mind was spiritually ill or sick, being in bondage to Satan's delusion. God uses man's mental maladies to illustrate they are spiritually fools, simpletons or insanity in Scripture to paint a portrait of those who spiritually do not think or act with sound reasoning. By being deceived by Satan their mind is "not right" as it is a slave to confusion and turmoil. And this is where we get the term "Spiritual Insanity." It is a spiritual disorder of the mind that comes from having a spirit of delusion, a type of spiritual psychosis of those whose mind is not set free in Christ. In Spiritual insanity the truth seems like a lie and what is sound seems unsound, what is right seems wrong, the mind is in total spiritual confusion.

          2nd Timothy 1:7
          • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
          The opposite of the sound or sober mind of true Christians is spiritual insanity. It is when the spirit is not right and one's mind is not sober or sound. For example, Christ miraculously healed a man that was insane, which (like all of the physical miracles Christ did) painted this portrait of God's miraculous power to bring healing to the spiritually sick mind through the efficacy of His death and resurrection. For example, the physical miraculous healing of the insane man was a "sign" or token of the Spiritual healing of our spiritual insanity. e.g.:

          Mark 5:1-8
          • "And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
          • And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
          • Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
          • Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
          • And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
          • But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
          • And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
          • For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit."
          God uses the demon's control over the mind of this man as a picture of mankind before they are set free of bondage to Satan. The man who was "not in his right mind" was an insane man divinely used of Christ as a token of all those in bondage to the Devil and who dwell in the tombs (presence of death) and who are spiritually as a wild and raging beast that cannot be tamed. Christ's healing of this man is illustrative of the power of God to bring the peace of a sound mind to the Spiritually Insane. This man was miraculously healed as a sign to illustrate Christ's miraculous power in salvation.

          Mark 5:15
          • "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid."
          Here again, we see the possession of the Devil equated to being unsaved and out of his mind, whereas Christ's healing removes the Devil and heals the sin-sick mind. The man was set free of the Devil and given a sober mind, a right mind, the mind of Christ in His blessed hope.

          1st Peter 1:13
          • "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
          When we are saved we are Spiritually clothed in the righteousness of Christ and the sober mind is the right mind. A mind where spiritually (in our right mind) the Devil has been cast out of us. In its pragmatic sense, spiritual insanity is the worldly unsound aversion to reconciliation with God, a mindless rejection of receiving the truth and righteousness, a fool's errand to remain in bondage to the Devil and sin. We could just as easily call it a spiritual foolishness or a spiritual delusion, but it's all pointing to the same unsound spiritual condition or disorder.

          2nd Thessalonians 2:9-13
          • "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
          • And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
          • And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
          • That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
          • But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
          Spiritual delusion or spiritual insanity, the mind that is fooled, beguiled or duped. The moral of this story of 2nd Thessalonians, not all in the church will receive the truth in love because many don't love the truth. They love self-justification over truth. This strong delusion is a spirit of fraudulence where one a mind that allows them to believe sinful man's lies and deceptions. In practical terms, it is a spirit of straying from orthodoxy or sound Christian principles in this rejection of the truth. How many times have you seen this realized? You witness to someone the obvious and unadulterated truth of Scripture (word for word), and yet they reject God's word of truth for man-made interpretations? That's exactly what that passage says, they just won't receive the truth in love. Truly, they don't really know what love is, because to them truth appears loveless, judgmental and arrogant.

          These passages are divinely inspired of God to have us recognize the spiritual delusion in the bondage of the Devil. In its truest form, delusion is nothing but man's own deceitful will that moves him to dishonestly work against the truth. The spirit of the beast makes them spiritually insane, their mind being in spiritual slavery.

          By contrast, that last verse reiterates the truth of the sober thinking Christian:

          2nd Thessalonians 2:13
          • "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
          Beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. Therein is the difference between the Elect of the church blessed with sound minds that believe the truth when they hear it, and the false or pseudo Christians or professed Christians with unsound minds deluded to trample the truth underfoot in their zeal to justify themselves and their own will. Why? Because unlike the insane man God healed, God did not truly through the Spirit give them a right/sound mind. They merely took His name upon themselves, but never His Spirit. Again:

          2nd Timothy 1:7
          • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
          The Spirit is the power of a sound mind. Christians are to be sober-minded, as opposed to having a mind of fearfulness and of confusion and unrest and turmoil, which is this type of spiritual disorder. Spiritual insanity is the secret persona of the Devil within man that provokes and causes fear and unrest where people are careful of many things, the least of which is service to God. Perfect love casts out fear.

          To start posting about a physical war with national Israel, looking for the antichrist, rebuilt third temple, the rapture before the great tribulation, etc. based on what they heard in the news are NOT supported by Scripture, are an example of spiritual insanity. Why? Because they are deceived by false prophets who brought theses lies into the Church.
          As for your last paragraph, yeah it all is supported by Scripture, people have posted proofs over and over again. Its not our fault you have been spiritually blinded by whatever corrupt church you are part of.
          Do not ever call God a liar for that is what you are doing.

          I have written down (And I just keep forgetting to bring it with me,) proofs of "National" Israel and how National Israel shall rise and rule the world with Jesus at the helm. Eventually I am going to bring those notes with me and you need to listen. For you are the heretic who will perish and burn if you do not change and dump your lies

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheMatrixHasU71 View Post

            As for your last paragraph, yeah it all is supported by Scripture, people have posted proofs over and over again. Its not our fault you have been spiritually blinded by whatever corrupt church you are part of.
            Do not ever call God a liar for that is what you are doing.

            I have written down (And I just keep forgetting to bring it with me,) proofs of "National" Israel and how National Israel shall rise and rule the world with Jesus at the helm. Eventually I am going to bring those notes with me and you need to listen. For you are the heretic who will perish and burn if you do not change and dump your lies
            I've seen that claim before yet never seen the scriptures you're talking about.

            Jesus has already condemned all who do not believe He is the Messiah who came in the flesh. And He ahas already made all races people ONE in Him.

            So no, there are no scriptural proof for the Jews of the flesh being any more special than any other The book of Galatians proves all of this Jew worship is heretical and false and leads to eternal death.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheMatrixHasU71 View Post

              As for your last paragraph, yeah it all is supported by Scripture, people have posted proofs over and over again. Its not our fault you have been spiritually blinded by whatever corrupt church you are part of.
              Do not ever call God a liar for that is what you are doing.

              I have written down (And I just keep forgetting to bring it with me,) proofs of "National" Israel and how National Israel shall rise and rule the world with Jesus at the helm. Eventually I am going to bring those notes with me and you need to listen. For you are the heretic who will perish and burn if you do not change and dump your lies
              I had started writing several responses to the OP but quit each for various reasons. You are 100% correct!! In one of the unfinished responses, I had written that the totally unhinged author of the OP was effectively accusing God of being unfaithful and a liar. The pride, arrogance, and ignorance is stunning. Basically, he's saying that If you disagree with TS, in his mind the Lord's designated expert on hermeneutics I would guess, you're "unbalanced, unsound and even delusional" and "spiritually insane" to boot. Oh, now I remember, I quit writing each time because he wasn't worth the time to respond and would be unable to comprehend any kind of rebuttal, as I've learned in past exchanges with him!
              Fight like a real man. Get on your knees and pray!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheMatrixHasU71 View Post

                I have written down (And I just keep forgetting to bring it with me,) proofs of "National" Israel and how National Israel shall rise and rule the world with Jesus at the helm. Eventually I am going to bring those notes with me and you need to listen. For you are the heretic who will perish and burn if you do not change and dump your lies
                You are talking to someone who once was a hard core premillennial, pre-tribulation, Dispensationalist for 21 years. I have studied and listened to Hal Lindsey, Dave Hunt, John Hagee, or even Jack Van Impe! I already know alot more than what your notes may say! I know for the biblical fact from years of honest studying of Scripture that God was NOT talking about national Israel expect that she was only a representative of old testament kingdom of God before it was taken from them and gave to the Church.

                I know that you are caught up in the earthly significance of national Israel, you place a restoration of that nation in a future millennium than the restoration of Israel that Christ placed in His Church for the past 2,000 years. That is why as long as God is my witnesses, you got wrong Israel to begin with! The dispensationalism is a dangerous doctrine because they deny Christ and his kingdom.

                Don't waste your time sharing your notes about "national Israel." Here is your opportunity for ANYONE to read about Israel and Jerusalem exactly who they are to God:

                Romans Chapter Eleven

                The promises to Israel of God

                The Mother of God's Children
                Last edited by TribulationSigns; 09-10-18, 07:08 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TribulationSigns View Post

                  You are talking to someone who once was a hard core premillennial, pre-tribulation, Dispensationalist for 21 years. I have studied and listened to Hal Lindsey, Dave Hunt, John Hagee, or even Jack Van Impe! I already know alot more than what your notes may say! I know for the biblical fact from years of honest studying of Scripture that God was NOT talking about national Israel expect that she was only a representative of old testament kingdom of God before it was taken from them and gave to the Church.

                  I know that you are caught up in the earthly significance of national Israel, you place a restoration of that nation in a future millennium than the restoration of Israel that Christ placed in His Church for the past 2,000 years. That is why as long as God is my witnesses, you got wrong Israel to begin with! The dispensationalism is a dangerous doctrine because they deny Christ and his kingdom.

                  Don't waste your time sharing your notes about "national Israel." Here is your opportunity for ANYONE to read about Israel and Jerusalem exactly who they are to God:

                  Romans Chapter Eleven

                  The promises to Israel of God

                  The Mother of God's Children
                  Does anyone care what you choose to believe? No! That's your busines. And no matter how much I may disagree with it, I would never dream of calling you "spiritually insane". Get off your high horse and treat others as you want us to treat you. You profess to be writing your stuff as a warning of how we will be judged by the Lord if we don't agree with your personal eschatology. I can only speak for myself, but if this is how people of your persuasion view those who disagree with them, then that is the last thing on earth I would want to be associated with. So put that in your pipe and smoke it!

                  Fight like a real man. Get on your knees and pray!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TribulationSigns View Post
                    I have observed that with some people there is spiritual insanity over interpretations for Bible Prophecies is taking place here. But what is spiritual insanity?

                    Spiritual Insanity is a type of mental impairment or spiritual madness where our thinking becomes unbalanced, unsound and even delusional. It is actually a term "gleaned" from the Scripture where someone has the spirit of Satan wherein they are viewed as not in their right mind, and thus by implication, insane. In Scripture, God uses insanity as a portrait of the unsound or actually unreasonable behavior of the unsaved who are in bondage to the Devil. You've heard people who are struggling with some sin or personal issues, etc., viewed as "those who are struggling with their Demons?". Well, that's not entirely an unbiblical idiom. Because in Scripture physical insanity was used by God as a symbol of one whose mind was spiritually ill or sick, being in bondage to Satan's delusion. God uses man's mental maladies to illustrate they are spiritually fools, simpletons or insanity in Scripture to paint a portrait of those who spiritually do not think or act with sound reasoning. By being deceived by Satan their mind is "not right" as it is a slave to confusion and turmoil. And this is where we get the term "Spiritual Insanity." It is a spiritual disorder of the mind that comes from having a spirit of delusion, a type of spiritual psychosis of those whose mind is not set free in Christ. In Spiritual insanity the truth seems like a lie and what is sound seems unsound, what is right seems wrong, the mind is in total spiritual confusion.

                    2nd Timothy 1:7
                    • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
                    The opposite of the sound or sober mind of true Christians is spiritual insanity. It is when the spirit is not right and one's mind is not sober or sound. For example, Christ miraculously healed a man that was insane, which (like all of the physical miracles Christ did) painted this portrait of God's miraculous power to bring healing to the spiritually sick mind through the efficacy of His death and resurrection. For example, the physical miraculous healing of the insane man was a "sign" or token of the Spiritual healing of our spiritual insanity. e.g.:

                    Mark 5:1-8
                    • "And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
                    • And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
                    • Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
                    • Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
                    • And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
                    • But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
                    • And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
                    • For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit."
                    God uses the demon's control over the mind of this man as a picture of mankind before they are set free of bondage to Satan. The man who was "not in his right mind" was an insane man divinely used of Christ as a token of all those in bondage to the Devil and who dwell in the tombs (presence of death) and who are spiritually as a wild and raging beast that cannot be tamed. Christ's healing of this man is illustrative of the power of God to bring the peace of a sound mind to the Spiritually Insane. This man was miraculously healed as a sign to illustrate Christ's miraculous power in salvation.

                    Mark 5:15
                    • "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid."
                    Here again, we see the possession of the Devil equated to being unsaved and out of his mind, whereas Christ's healing removes the Devil and heals the sin-sick mind. The man was set free of the Devil and given a sober mind, a right mind, the mind of Christ in His blessed hope.

                    1st Peter 1:13
                    • "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
                    When we are saved we are Spiritually clothed in the righteousness of Christ and the sober mind is the right mind. A mind where spiritually (in our right mind) the Devil has been cast out of us. In its pragmatic sense, spiritual insanity is the worldly unsound aversion to reconciliation with God, a mindless rejection of receiving the truth and righteousness, a fool's errand to remain in bondage to the Devil and sin. We could just as easily call it a spiritual foolishness or a spiritual delusion, but it's all pointing to the same unsound spiritual condition or disorder.

                    2nd Thessalonians 2:9-13
                    • "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
                    • And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
                    • And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
                    • That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
                    • But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
                    Spiritual delusion or spiritual insanity, the mind that is fooled, beguiled or duped. The moral of this story of 2nd Thessalonians, not all in the church will receive the truth in love because many don't love the truth. They love self-justification over truth. This strong delusion is a spirit of fraudulence where one a mind that allows them to believe sinful man's lies and deceptions. In practical terms, it is a spirit of straying from orthodoxy or sound Christian principles in this rejection of the truth. How many times have you seen this realized? You witness to someone the obvious and unadulterated truth of Scripture (word for word), and yet they reject God's word of truth for man-made interpretations? That's exactly what that passage says, they just won't receive the truth in love. Truly, they don't really know what love is, because to them truth appears loveless, judgmental and arrogant.

                    These passages are divinely inspired of God to have us recognize the spiritual delusion in the bondage of the Devil. In its truest form, delusion is nothing but man's own deceitful will that moves him to dishonestly work against the truth. The spirit of the beast makes them spiritually insane, their mind being in spiritual slavery.

                    By contrast, that last verse reiterates the truth of the sober thinking Christian:

                    2nd Thessalonians 2:13
                    • "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
                    Beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. Therein is the difference between the Elect of the church blessed with sound minds that believe the truth when they hear it, and the false or pseudo Christians or professed Christians with unsound minds deluded to trample the truth underfoot in their zeal to justify themselves and their own will. Why? Because unlike the insane man God healed, God did not truly through the Spirit give them a right/sound mind. They merely took His name upon themselves, but never His Spirit. Again:

                    2nd Timothy 1:7
                    • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."
                    The Spirit is the power of a sound mind. Christians are to be sober-minded, as opposed to having a mind of fearfulness and of confusion and unrest and turmoil, which is this type of spiritual disorder. Spiritual insanity is the secret persona of the Devil within man that provokes and causes fear and unrest where people are careful of many things, the least of which is service to God. Perfect love casts out fear.

                    To start posting about a physical war with national Israel, looking for the antichrist, rebuilt third temple, the rapture before the great tribulation, etc. based on what they heard in the news are NOT supported by Scripture, are an example of spiritual insanity. Why? Because they are deceived by false prophets who brought theses lies into the Church.
                    Isn't there just a little bit of hypocrisy included in this recipe of spiritual insanity?

                    I mean, this is like the 5th beast/Rome (white rice, white sugar, and white flour) calling the Church white grapes.
                    Gen 30:33 So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that shall be counted stolen with me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arkycharlie View Post
                      Does anyone care what you choose to believe? No! That's your busines. And no matter how much I may disagree with it, I would never dream of calling you "spiritually insane". Get off your high horse and treat others as you want us to treat you. You profess to be writing your stuff as a warning of how we will be judged by the Lord if we don't agree with your personal eschatology. I can only speak for myself, but if this is how people of your persuasion view those who disagree with them, then that is the last thing on earth I would want to be associated with. So put that in your pipe and smoke it!
                      It is really simple. You are offended. Like I said, my posts are for public record and leave the rest to the Holy Spirit. I see that you haven't actually biblically refuted on anything I wrote or the links I posted. All you did is complaining about the tone of my writing. Boo-hoo. That is between you and the Holy Spirit now. Don't like to deal with me or my post? Then....bye already!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by precepts View Post

                        Isn't there just a little bit of hypocrisy included in this recipe of spiritual insanity?

                        I mean, this is like the 5th beast/Rome (white rice, white sugar, and white flour) calling the Church white grapes.
                        You do not make any sense whatsoever, as usual. You still have not answer my questions about your theory of white rice, sugar, and flour. It is your private interpretation based on race.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hemi View Post

                          I've seen that claim before yet never seen the scriptures you're talking about.

                          Jesus has already condemned all who do not believe He is the Messiah who came in the flesh. And He ahas already made all races people ONE in Him.

                          So no, there are no scriptural proof for the Jews of the flesh being any more special than any other The book of Galatians proves all of this Jew worship is heretical and false and leads to eternal death.
                          You have never seen the SCriptures that prove the truth? That is because Satan has blinded you and twisted your reasoning making you believe the passages mean something else other than the truth

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Arkycharlie View Post

                            I had started writing several responses to the OP but quit each for various reasons. You are 100% correct!! In one of the unfinished responses, I had written that the totally unhinged author of the OP was effectively accusing God of being unfaithful and a liar. The pride, arrogance, and ignorance is stunning. Basically, he's saying that If you disagree with TS, in his mind the Lord's designated expert on hermeneutics I would guess, you're "unbalanced, unsound and even delusional" and "spiritually insane" to boot. Oh, now I remember, I quit writing each time because he wasn't worth the time to respond and would be unable to comprehend any kind of rebuttal, as I've learned in past exchanges with him!
                            That is why I rarely respond to such people. They wont listen.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TribulationSigns View Post

                              You are talking to someone who once was a hard core premillennial, pre-tribulation, Dispensationalist for 21 years. I have studied and listened to Hal Lindsey, Dave Hunt, John Hagee, or even Jack Van Impe! I already know alot more than what your notes may say! I know for the biblical fact from years of honest studying of Scripture that God was NOT talking about national Israel expect that she was only a representative of old testament kingdom of God before it was taken from them and gave to the Church.

                              I know that you are caught up in the earthly significance of national Israel, you place a restoration of that nation in a future millennium than the restoration of Israel that Christ placed in His Church for the past 2,000 years. That is why as long as God is my witnesses, you got wrong Israel to begin with! The dispensationalism is a dangerous doctrine because they deny Christ and his kingdom.

                              Don't waste your time sharing your notes about "national Israel." Here is your opportunity for ANYONE to read about Israel and Jerusalem exactly who they are to God:

                              Romans Chapter Eleven

                              The promises to Israel of God

                              The Mother of God's Children
                              You don’t know where the true Jewish nation resides.

                              It will require study of history!

                              Also in Scripture.

                              Seek and you might find it!


                              harry

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