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    Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks

  • #2
    Originally posted by eascusa View Post
    Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks

    Good. Almost anyplace is better to go to. Thank you for that willingness , if it is real and true, while seeking the truth. There is very alive help available to you, spiritually and physically (honest doctors or health advisors are around, but often hard to find as they are few, and they are "quiet" , and they are NOT approved by drug makers) ,

    but it is almost never found in the group most are born into - and when the truth is found, the group kicks out the one who found the truth ! (this also is GOOD (to be kicked out of such groups).

    Read all the words of Jesus in the NT as soon as feasible for you to do. Forget everything else , at least for a while, as much as possible. Seek directions directly from the Creator Himself , Sovereign in Heaven , while READING THE BIBLE DIRECTLY (absolutely no commentaries or catechisms or other literature - ONLY THE BIBLE). (this may change later , or sooner, as Yahweh directs/ allows/ permits --- some people do very well with ONLY THE BIBLE (this is BEST), but few are able to accomplish this - yet also remember what is impossible with men (like getting free from the beast or babylon) is possible with Yahweh (God). )

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    • #3
      Originally posted by eascusa View Post
      Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks
      “Therefore if they say to you ....
      ‘Look, the Christ is in the inner rooms!’
      - tabernacles
      do not believe it. (Mat 24:26).

      The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
      Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eascusa View Post
        Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks
        In the Seventh Day Adventist church the elders bring the bread and the wine to the person in their homes. The communion is to cleanse the heart of sin as often as we do this. Healing is to have the elders do an anointing service for you in accordance with James 5:13-16. God is still all powerful and all wise. He can heal at any moment He chooses to or He can allow us to stay sick if that sickness will help us to come unto Him like He did with Elisha in II Kings 13:14. Our job is to rest in His all knowing love.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

          In the Seventh Day Adventist church the elders bring the bread and the wine to the person in their homes. The communion is to cleanse the heart of sin as often as we do this. Healing is to have the elders do an anointing service for you in accordance with James 5:13-16. God is still all powerful and all wise. He can heal at any moment He chooses to or He can allow us to stay sick if that sickness will help us to come unto Him like He did with Elisha in II Kings 13:14. Our job is to rest in His all knowing love.
          eascusa

          There is no scripture which supports that bread cleanses.

          Adventist are led by a false prophet and produce all sorts of nonsense.

          They cannot provide to or three foundational apostles or prophets (Eph 2:20),
          who prophesied and witnessed about Ellen White.


          that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
          (Mt 18:16, Deut. 17:6; 19:15; John 8:17; 2 Cor. 13:1).

          Now watch them get angry.
          .

          The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
          Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

            eascusa

            There is no scripture which supports that bread cleanses.

            Adventist are led by a false prophet and produce all sorts of nonsense.

            They cannot provide to or three foundational apostles or prophets (Eph 2:20),
            who prophesied and witnessed about Ellen White.


            that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
            (Mt 18:16, Deut. 17:6; 19:15; John 8:17; 2 Cor. 13:1).

            Now watch them get angry.
            .
            I don't believe that I ever claimed that the Bread cleanses. I did say that the elders brought the bread and wine to the house for those who can't get out and get to church. Is it ok Conqueror to help the disabled to partake of communion?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

              The communion is to cleanse the heart of sin ...........
              Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

              I don't believe that I ever claimed that the Bread cleanses.
              Salvation by eating bread is your theology,
              but not scriptural


              eascusa
              The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
              Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


                Salvation by eating bread is your theology,
                but not scriptural


                eascusa
                When that bread represents the flesh of Jesus, then there is salvation in it. When the wine represents the blood of Christ shed at Calvary for us, then that "bread" and that "wine" brings salvation to anyone who eats and drinks it by faith.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Conqueror View Post



                  Salvation by eating bread is your theology,
                  but not scriptural

                  Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

                  When that bread represents the flesh of Jesus, then there is salvation in it.
                  You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.


                  The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                  Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post




                    You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.

                    Thank you, now all people have to do is partake of the Lord's Supper by faith in Jesus and they will be saved. .

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                    • #11

                      Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post


                      When that bread represents the flesh of Jesus, then there is salvation in it.
                      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                      You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.

                      Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

                      Thank you, now all people have to do is partake of the Lord's Supper by faith in Jesus and they will be saved. .
                      Don't forget about that faith in EGW, the false prophetess
                      and pretending to keep the Sabbath.


                      .



                      The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                      Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                      • #12
                        Any Christian can partake of communion any time they want to.

                        1 Cor 11:23-26
                        23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me." 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.
                        Allen (Unless noted otherwise, Bible quotations are from the 1984 edition of the NIV)

                        Faith--Sees the invisible, believes the incredible, and receives the impossible.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by eascusa View Post
                          Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks
                          You might want to ask this in the Catholic forum. To us, Communion is a ritual we do because we're instructed to, but it is only symbolic and not critical if we can't do it.

                          I don't know about your specific situation, but I do know others who suffer chronic pain and in most cases, if they'd start taking care of themselves (e.g. eating right to reduce chronic inflammation) they would reduce, if not eliminate their chronic pain. Doctors don't see as their job to encourage you to take care of yourself. They only see it as their job to treat your symptoms.

                          You could talk to your church and see if someone would visit your home to administer Communion. Many churches have portable Communion supplies for home-bound members.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ruk View Post

                            You might want to ask this in the Catholic forum. To us, Communion is a ritual we do because we're instructed to, but it is only symbolic and not critical if we can't do it.
                            That is sheer deception for Catholics are commanded to believe,
                            that the wafer and the wine are turned
                            into the body and blood of Christ.

                            However most of the hypocrites don't believe that.


                            Originally posted by JoeT View Post

                            I said those who don't partake of the Eucharist, the Real Presence, don't have eternal life. You are absolutely correct, those who DO NOT participate, DO NOT have eternal life - rather simple concept isn't it?

                            .
                            The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                            Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post




                              You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.

                              Justification comes from accepting Jesus by faith. When we have accepted Jesus by faith, He asks us to be baptized by full emersion in water and to partake of the Lord's Supper - which includes eating the bread of His body and the wine of His blood. Do you partake of the Lords Supper Conqueror?

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