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Eating of Christ's flesh and drinking of his blood (Communion)

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    Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks

  • Greg Goodchild
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    Conqueror - it would appear that you do not participate in the Lord's Supper.

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  • Conqueror
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    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    The communion is to cleanse the heart of sin ...........

    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    I don't believe that I ever claimed that the Bread cleanses.


    Salvation by eating bread is your theology,
    but not scriptural



    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    Justification comes from accepting Jesus by faith. When we have accepted Jesus by faith, He asks us to be baptized by full emersion in water and to partake of the Lord's Supper - which includes eating the bread of His body and the wine of His blood. Do you partake of the Lords Supper Conqueror?
    Unstable and change of mind.


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    Last edited by Conqueror; 03-03-19, 09:22 PM.

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  • Greg Goodchild
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    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post




    You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.

    Justification comes from accepting Jesus by faith. When we have accepted Jesus by faith, He asks us to be baptized by full emersion in water and to partake of the Lord's Supper - which includes eating the bread of His body and the wine of His blood. Do you partake of the Lords Supper Conqueror?

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  • Conqueror
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    Originally posted by Ruk View Post

    You might want to ask this in the Catholic forum. To us, Communion is a ritual we do because we're instructed to, but it is only symbolic and not critical if we can't do it.
    That is sheer deception for Catholics are commanded to believe,
    that the wafer and the wine are turned
    into the body and blood of Christ.

    However most of the hypocrites don't believe that.


    Originally posted by JoeT View Post

    I said those who don't partake of the Eucharist, the Real Presence, don't have eternal life. You are absolutely correct, those who DO NOT participate, DO NOT have eternal life - rather simple concept isn't it?

    .

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  • Ruk
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    Originally posted by eascusa View Post
    Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks
    You might want to ask this in the Catholic forum. To us, Communion is a ritual we do because we're instructed to, but it is only symbolic and not critical if we can't do it.

    I don't know about your specific situation, but I do know others who suffer chronic pain and in most cases, if they'd start taking care of themselves (e.g. eating right to reduce chronic inflammation) they would reduce, if not eliminate their chronic pain. Doctors don't see as their job to encourage you to take care of yourself. They only see it as their job to treat your symptoms.

    You could talk to your church and see if someone would visit your home to administer Communion. Many churches have portable Communion supplies for home-bound members.


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  • AlFin
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    Any Christian can partake of communion any time they want to.

    1 Cor 11:23-26
    23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me." 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

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  • Conqueror
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    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post


    When that bread represents the flesh of Jesus, then there is salvation in it.
    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

    You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.

    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    Thank you, now all people have to do is partake of the Lord's Supper by faith in Jesus and they will be saved. .
    Don't forget about that faith in EGW, the false prophetess
    and pretending to keep the Sabbath.


    .



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  • Greg Goodchild
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    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post




    You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.

    Thank you, now all people have to do is partake of the Lord's Supper by faith in Jesus and they will be saved. .

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  • Conqueror
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    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post



    Salvation by eating bread is your theology,
    but not scriptural

    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    When that bread represents the flesh of Jesus, then there is salvation in it.
    You have already made justification by eating bread abundantly clear.


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  • Greg Goodchild
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    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


    Salvation by eating bread is your theology,
    but not scriptural


    eascusa
    When that bread represents the flesh of Jesus, then there is salvation in it. When the wine represents the blood of Christ shed at Calvary for us, then that "bread" and that "wine" brings salvation to anyone who eats and drinks it by faith.

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  • Conqueror
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    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    The communion is to cleanse the heart of sin ...........
    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    I don't believe that I ever claimed that the Bread cleanses.
    Salvation by eating bread is your theology,
    but not scriptural


    eascusa

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  • Greg Goodchild
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    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

    eascusa

    There is no scripture which supports that bread cleanses.

    Adventist are led by a false prophet and produce all sorts of nonsense.

    They cannot provide to or three foundational apostles or prophets (Eph 2:20),
    who prophesied and witnessed about Ellen White.


    that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
    (Mt 18:16, Deut. 17:6; 19:15; John 8:17; 2 Cor. 13:1).

    Now watch them get angry.
    .
    I don't believe that I ever claimed that the Bread cleanses. I did say that the elders brought the bread and wine to the house for those who can't get out and get to church. Is it ok Conqueror to help the disabled to partake of communion?

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  • Conqueror
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    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

    In the Seventh Day Adventist church the elders bring the bread and the wine to the person in their homes. The communion is to cleanse the heart of sin as often as we do this. Healing is to have the elders do an anointing service for you in accordance with James 5:13-16. God is still all powerful and all wise. He can heal at any moment He chooses to or He can allow us to stay sick if that sickness will help us to come unto Him like He did with Elisha in II Kings 13:14. Our job is to rest in His all knowing love.
    eascusa

    There is no scripture which supports that bread cleanses.

    Adventist are led by a false prophet and produce all sorts of nonsense.

    They cannot provide to or three foundational apostles or prophets (Eph 2:20),
    who prophesied and witnessed about Ellen White.


    that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
    (Mt 18:16, Deut. 17:6; 19:15; John 8:17; 2 Cor. 13:1).

    Now watch them get angry.
    .

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  • Greg Goodchild
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    Originally posted by eascusa View Post
    Hello everyone! I have a question. But first let me tell you that I am a chronic pain sufferer. I have many health problems and I am only 42. I have been this way for some time. I am a Christian. I was born into a Catholic family where I was baptized and made my first communion. I know how the Catholics feel about going to church and how important communion is every Sunday. But because of my health issues as well as deep chronic depression and social anxieties I don't go to church. But I am very much into reading the bible and prayer. I try to have a close relationship with Jesus and God the father every single day. Now because I don't go to church I don't have communion. And this is what my question is about. It talks a lot in the bible about the importance of eating of the flesh and drinking of Christ's blood. Such as in John 6:53 Communion is suppose to restore us physically, mentally, and spiritually. At least that is what a lot of people believe. But what does it say in the bible exactly about this subject? Such as in John 6:53. Do we take this literally and into today's day and age. Of course not literally, literally but with a substitute of bread and wine? Is this something I should be doing? Some would say this why I am so sick. Or if I took communion I would get better. But for me even if I went to my Catholic church on Sunday I cannot go up for communion if I was to obey there laws. You are not suppose to take communion if you have any mortal sins that you have not confessed to a priest about. And not going to church every Sunday is a mortal sin to Catholics. So is not going to confession. But its hard for me to go to confession because of my social anxiety. Now I know Catholics don't believe in giving themselves communion but what do others here think about it? Is this something I can do at home? How do others feel about this? Is this something we all should be doing? I am willing to go to a different church if need be.Thanks
    In the Seventh Day Adventist church the elders bring the bread and the wine to the person in their homes. The communion is to cleanse the heart of sin as often as we do this. Healing is to have the elders do an anointing service for you in accordance with James 5:13-16. God is still all powerful and all wise. He can heal at any moment He chooses to or He can allow us to stay sick if that sickness will help us to come unto Him like He did with Elisha in II Kings 13:14. Our job is to rest in His all knowing love.

    Leave a comment:

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