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The ONE QUESTION that stumps every KJVO!

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  • The ONE QUESTION that stumps every KJVO!

    There's one question a Freedom reader can ask any KJVO, & he/she will be stumped, stymied, stuttering, not DARE answering it CORRECTLY. That question is:

    BY WHAT AUTHORITY do you believe and preach the KJVO myth???????????? It's not found in Scripture whatsoever, so it CANNOT be true!

    The CORRECT answer completely quashes the KJVO myth! That answer is either NONE, or SOME OTHER PERSON'S AUTHORITY.

    So, KJVOs, you have NO EXCUSE to believe or preach the KJVO myth!

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    I didn't expect any KJVO response. As I said, this question stumps & stymies them all.

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    • #3
      Here's the question that stumps, stymies, and none DARE answer CORRECTLY:

      Where is the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
      1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
        Where is the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
        Why are you asking ... don't you claim to possess it???

        So why don't you tell us which specific edition, revision, [or whatever] of the KJV it is??
        Joh 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. [NIV]

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
          Here's the question that stumps, stymies, and none DARE answer CORRECTLY:

          Where is the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
          You would not answer your own question correctly. It would not be the 1611 KJV as you may assume or presume. You do not demonstrate that your question is valid and sound.

          According to the KJV translators themselves in their marginal notes, the 1611 KJV does not provide an English rendering for every preserved, inspired original-language word of God.

          If someone wants to obtain one, a printed copy of one of the Hebrew Old Testament text editions and one of the Greek New Testament text editions used in the making of the KJV could be picked up and held in a person's hands.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
            Here's the question that stumps, stymies, and none DARE answer CORRECTLY:

            Where is the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
            Any valid version or trans;lation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by roby3 View Post
              There's one question a Freedom reader can ask any KJVO, & he/she will be stumped, stymied, stuttering, not DARE answering it CORRECTLY. That question is:

              BY WHAT AUTHORITY do you believe and preach the KJVO myth???????????? It's not found in Scripture whatsoever, so it CANNOT be true!

              The CORRECT answer completely quashes the KJVO myth! That answer is either NONE, or SOME OTHER PERSON'S AUTHORITY.

              So, KJVOs, you have NO EXCUSE to believe or preach the KJVO myth!
              Gonna try to answer my question, Peanut Gallery? If there's any truth to the KJVO myth, it should be easy for you to answer.

              I won't answer any more of your Qs til you answer mine.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                Here's the question that stumps, stymies, and none DARE answer CORRECTLY:

                Where is the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
                Is your question based on an presumptuous sin that merely presumes or assume your question's underlying premises to be supposedly true by use of fallacies?

                Originally posted by JDS View Post

                13Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins;
                let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright,
                and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by logos1560 View Post

                  Is your question based on an presumptuous sin that merely presumes or assume your question's underlying premises to be supposedly true by use of fallacies?
                  You're stumped and stymied? You cannot provide the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
                  1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                    You're stumped and stymied?
                    Incorrect. Your invalid question does not stump and stymie my scripturally-based position. It may stump and stymie you since you refuse to answer your own question. I had already answered your question even though it is likely invalid and based on your unproven KJV-only premises. I can even soundly answer your question with another question.

                    Originally posted by logos1560 View Post

                    You would not answer your own question correctly. It would not be the 1611 KJV as you may assume or presume. You do not demonstrate that your question is valid and sound.

                    According to the KJV translators themselves in their marginal notes, the 1611 KJV does not provide an English rendering for every preserved, inspired original-language word of God.

                    If someone wants to obtain one, a printed copy of one of the Hebrew Old Testament text editions and one of the Greek New Testament text editions used in the making of the KJV could be picked up and held in a person's hands.
                    Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                    You cannot provide the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
                    I have copies of actual printed reprint editions of Hebrew Old Testament texts and Greek New Testament texts used in the making of the KJV.

                    PeanutGallery, do you in effect try to suggest that the texts used in the making of the KJV do not have the inspired, preserved word of God and that the KJV was not translated from the inspired, preserved word of God?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                      You're stumped and stymied? You cannot provide the Bible that anyone can pick up and believe every inspired preserved word of God?
                      Hey! You claim to have it so shouldn't you be broadcasting the information to the world like a good little Christian???
                      Joh 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. [NIV]

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by logos1560 View Post
                        ...
                        I have copies of actual printed reprint editions of Hebrew Old Testament texts and Greek New Testament texts used in the making of the KJV.
                        By all means, write your own copy of the Bible which will correct all the supposed errors of the KJB translators.
                        Then you can claim to hold in your hand the definitive inspired word of God.
                        1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post

                          Originally posted by logos1560 View Post

                          Incorrect. Your invalid question does not stump and stymie my scripturally-based position. It may stump and stymie you since you refuse to answer your own question. I had already answered your question even though it is likely invalid and based on your unproven KJV-only premises. I can even soundly answer your question with another question.

                          I have copies of actual printed reprint editions of Hebrew Old Testament texts and Greek New Testament texts used in the making of the KJV.

                          PeanutGallery, do you in effect try to suggest that the texts used in the making of the KJV do not have the inspired, preserved word of God and that the KJV was not translated from the inspired, preserved word of God?
                          By all means, write your own copy of the Bible which will correct all the supposed errors of the KJB translators.
                          Then you can claim to hold in your hand the definitive inspired word of God.
                          I nowhere suggest the words that you incorrectly attempt to put in my mouth.

                          I am not the one who in effect advocates the writing or making of a new Bible in 1611 which would correct all the supposed errors in the preserved Scriptures in the original languages.

                          It would be your erroneous, non-scriptural KJV-only reasoning that in effect attempts to suggest that the Church of England makers of the KJV in 1611 supposedly corrected all the supposed errors in the pre-1611 English Bible and in the preserved Scriptures in the original languages.

                          Evidently you in effect suggest that the KJV translators did not hold the definitive inspired word of God in their hands in the printed original-language texts from which they translated.

                          You did not answer my direct question to you.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                            By all means, write your own copy of the Bible which will correct all the supposed errors of the KJB translators.
                            Then you can claim to hold in your hand the definitive inspired word of God.
                            Why won't you identify this mysterious perfect and complete, nothing missing and nothing added, infallible word of God you have claimed to posses???

                            You know why and we know why and we know you know and you know we know!!
                            Joh 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. [NIV]

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by roby3 View Post
                              There's one question a Freedom reader can ask any KJVO, & he/she will be stumped, stymied, stuttering, not DARE answering it CORRECTLY. That question is:

                              BY WHAT AUTHORITY do you believe and preach the KJVO myth???????????? It's not found in Scripture whatsoever, so it CANNOT be true!

                              The CORRECT answer completely quashes the KJVO myth! That answer is either NONE, or SOME OTHER PERSON'S AUTHORITY.

                              So, KJVOs, you have NO EXCUSE to believe or preach the KJVO myth!
                              When reading the Bible I usually rely on a Greek cross reference to get the Greek meaning of certain words and how they were used by the Greeks at that time. Of course simply obtaining the Greek meaning may not render the full meaning as applied in context so that a Greek scholar commentary is also helpful. We know that the original scriptures as written and spoken by the Hebrew Prophets and later the Apostles were inspired word for word by the Holy Spirit. That same assurance can not be applied to any translation no matter how well it is translated. Any translation from one language to another is at best a good rendition of the original at a majority of the passages. But the simplicity of the Gospel {i.e. faith (pistis - reliance, trust, clinging to) and salvation through Christ} makes any distortions of the Gospel impossible. There are just too many passages with this message to distort and many of them are hidden in the OT. For example the Tabernacle in the wilderness, Solomon's Temple, the Brazen serpent. You can even use a JW's own Bible to argue against their doctrine. They can mistranslate some of the scriptures but they fail in distorting the message of the Gospel. So in that sense even the message of the Gospel which survives any translation is inspired by God.

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