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The ONE QUESTION that stumps every KJVO! NEW version

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    started a topic The ONE QUESTION that stumps every KJVO! NEW version

    The ONE QUESTION that stumps every KJVO! NEW version

    The OLD will be closed, and this is the NEW will be here
    I am attempting to pick it up where the format went bonkers


    06-01-18, 06:48 AM
    Originally posted by john t View Post
    It is you, who are creating diversions, and attempting to ignore facts. More to the point is that you are OBJECTIFYING us (by calling people INACCURATE and INFLAMMATORY names.)
    1. ZERO of us who do not hold your position are "against the KJV Bible". That is a misrepresentation of our position, and ZERO of us ever said that.
    You use the word "us" as though you and all the opponents of the KJV are on the same page in all aspects. I have not found that to be true.


    Time and time again, we state that we are uniformly against KJV ONLYISM. You seem not to understand that distinction.

    Marke
    Some oppose the KJV in opposition to KJVO. I oppose neither the KJV Bible nor those who believe the Bible is an excellent translation of the Word of God.

    By not understanding that CRITICAL difference your posts muddy the waters and erroneously make fallacious and condescending statements like "The KJVO myth is a myth " https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/th...40#post5297140
    marke ]I was responding to a KJV critic who first called KJVO a myth
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    john t
    I could say more, but I'll not go there. My point remains proved that all of these are mere diversions to the FACTS. NEWER DISCOVERED and thus OLDER MANUSCRIPTS etc are now available when the Textus Receptus (Stephanus of 1550) was written. A refusal to admit that they exist is akin to believing in a flat earth.
    marke
    ​​​​​​​I do not agree with the assumption that little used manuscripts survived longer because they were "better."
    I am not a NPB-Onlyist (No Perfect Bible Onlyist), nor a NA/UBS-Onlyist. Marke

    If this book be not infallible, where shall we find infallibility? We have given up the Pope, for he has blundered often and terribly; but we shall not set up instead of him a horde of little popelings fresh from college. C. H. Spurgeon

    For that Revised Version I have but little care as a general rule, holding it to be by no means an improvement upon our common Authorized Version. C.H. Spurgeon

  • roby3
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    Still, NO KJVO RESPONSE to the FACTS in the OP which effectively render the KJVO myth false!

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  • Trucker
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    Originally posted by john t View Post
    Iprefer the KJV. I have studied translation issues for more than 40 years and am convinced the KJV is the best readily available English version in America today.
    No, it is more accurate to state that from what you post here, it is more accurate to state that you have only read those things that support your views, ignoring everything else.
    Or that anything contradicting presuppositions goes in one ear and out the other at warp speed.

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  • john t
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    The Bible does not approve of any modern translation by name.
    The absurdity of that statement is so stunning that I am at a loss for analogies. Your statement essentially states that the Textus Receptus (aka Stephanus c 1500) should have foreseen the KJV of 1611 & 1758 or the ASV of 1901, or the NIV of 1976, etc

    Christians must go to God for direction when seeking a good Bible translation.
    God has never stated that except perhaps in your imagination

    Iprefer the KJV. I have studied translation issues for more than 40 years and am convinced the KJV is the best readily available English version in America today.
    No, it is more accurate to state that from what you post here, it is more accurate to state that you have only read those things that support your views, ignoring everything else.

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by roby3 View Post
    Still, NO KJVOs responding to this IMPORTANT FACT that makes their KJVO myth untrue - its TOTAL LACK of Scriptural support, even in the KJV itself!
    The Bible does not approve of any modern translation by name. Christians must go to God for direction when seeking a good Bible translation. I prefer the KJV. I have studied translation issues for more than 40 years and am convinced the KJV is the best readily available English version in America today.

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  • roby3
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    Still, NO KJVOs responding to this IMPORTANT FACT that makes their KJVO myth untrue - its TOTAL LACK of Scriptural support, even in the KJV itself!

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  • roby3
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    Still, NOT ONE KJVO response to the OP of this thread!

    VERY TELLING!

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  • roby3
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    There's still NO KJVO ANSWERS to the FACTS presented to them here, that the KJVO myth has NO SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT, & NO AUTHORITY FROM GOD to believe it! How long will you KJVOs remain BLINDED to those FACTS???????????????

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  • roby3
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    here's MY lista likes/dislikes about the KJVO myth.

    Likes:
    1.) Overall, the KJV's not a bad translation.
    2.) The KJV is the most-printed book in history, in any language.
    3.) It's good for verse memorization, as its English is not our everyday style.
    4.) The KJV has been used to lead millions to Jesus.

    Dislikes:

    1.) KJVO is a myth; it's man-made and has been PROVEN false.
    2.) It's false cuz there are quite a few other valid English Bible translations.
    3.) KJVO does not have one word of Scriptural support, even in the KJV itself.
    4.) The current KJVO myth has a cultic, dishonest origin.
    5.) The KJVO claim that the KJV is perfect, is false. Several goofs & booboos in the KJV are PROVEN.
    6.) Many KJVOs are so brainwashed that they won'y believe any evidence against their myth right under their noses.
    7.) The KJV is not in OUR English.
    8.) There's simply NO AUTHORITY FROM GOD to believe the KJVO myth.

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  • logos1560
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    Some people think I follow the Lord in my views and others think I am leaning unto my own opinions. I just need to please the Lord and not worry what men think about me.
    If you were not concerned or worried about what men think, why did you seem to boast that "some people think" that you follow the Lord in your views?

    You fail to demonstrate that your non-scriptural opinions concerning the KJV are actually following the Lord.

    Can those unidentified, claimed people demonstrate from the Scriptures that your unproven opinions concerning the KJV are following the Lord or are taught in the Scriptures?

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by logos1560 View Post

    Some of your posts would indicate that at times you seek to please men, at least you yourself. You follow your own preconceived, non-scriptural opinions concerning the KJV.

    Where do the Scriptures state or teach that your posts that when you choose to follow your own subjective, biased, non-scriptural opinions it would be actually pleasing the Lord?


    Some people think I follow the Lord in my views and others think I am leaning unto my own opinions. I just need to please the Lord and not worry what men think about me.

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by roby3 View Post

    So, you even believe the PROVEN GOOFS in the KJV, such as the oft-discussed "Easter" one? That's not too smart.
    I might be dumb for believing the arguments of those not finding fault with the word "Easter," but at least nobody can accuse me of being dumb for believing critics who do find fault with the word "Easter."

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by Glenlogie View Post
    Thanks for admitting that you should read only the KJV is guesswork on your part.
    What is your favorite version of the Bible and have you found flaws in it?

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  • logos1560
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    Originally posted by marke View Post
    . If you think that is wrong then I am sorry but I will continue to do what I believe pleases the Lord, not men.
    Some of your posts would indicate that at times you seek to please men, at least you yourself. You follow your own preconceived, non-scriptural opinions concerning the KJV.

    Where do the Scriptures state or teach that your posts that when you choose to follow your own subjective, biased, non-scriptural opinions it would be actually pleasing the Lord?



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  • roby3
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    You are right. I have no idea what your point is about just measures/standards. I believe every word of the KJV Bible. I don't even read other Bibles. If you think that is wrong then I am sorry but I will continue to do what I believe pleases the Lord, not men.
    So, you even believe the PROVEN GOOFS in the KJV, such as the oft-discussed "Easter" one? That's not too smart.

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