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(Novum Testamentum Graece) Is Corrupt Fruit, From Corrupt Trees!

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  • (Novum Testamentum Graece) Is Corrupt Fruit, From Corrupt Trees!

    "Neither Can A Corrupt Tree Bring Forth Good Fruit"!

    (Carlo Maria Martini) Went To His Grave Supporting Same Sex Unions.

    (Kurt Aland) Went To His Grave Married To A Woman Who Wasn't His Wife, While His Wife And Children Lived, Adultery.

    The NIV, ESV, NASB, find their foundation in the (Novum Testamentum Graece) created by a Homosexual Union Supporter (Carlo Maria Martini) and Adulterers (Kurt Aland) who divorced his wife and children, and ran off with the college girl in his classroom, 22 years her senior in (Barbara Ehlers).

    Yes (Carlo Maria Martini), (Kurt Aland), And (Barbara Ehlers) Created The (Novum Testamentum Graece) that supports almost all new bible versions.

    (Carlo Maria Martini), (Kurt Aland) and (Barbara Ehlers) are "Corrupt Trees" and their (Novum Testamentum Graece) Is Their "Corrupt Fruit".

    Matthew 7:18KJV
    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

    Wikipedia: Novum Testamentum Graece

    Today the designation Novum Testamentum Graece normally refers to the Nestle-Aland editions, named after the scholars who led the critical editing work. The text, edited by the Institut für neutestamentliche Textforschung (Institute for New Testament Textual Research) is currently in its 28th edition, abbreviated NA28. The Nestle-Aland text is the primary source for most contemporary New Testament translations, although most are translations of the earlier text that was available at the time of translation. The Nestle-Aland text is also the standard for academic work in New Testament studies.

    The title Novum Testamentum Graece can also be applied to the United Bible Societies (UBS) edition which contains the same base text (the latest UBS 4th ed contains the text from the NA27).

    Members of the Editorial Committee of the United Bible Societies' Greek New Testament comprise:

    UBS1, 1966
    UBS2, 1968

    Kurt Aland, Matthew Black, Bruce Metzger, Allen Wikgren.

    UBS3, 1975

    Kurt Aland, Matthew Black, Carlo Maria Martini, Bruce Metzger, Allen Wikgren.

    UBS4, 1993

    Barbara Aland, Kurt Aland, Johannes Karavidopoulos, Carlo Maria Martini, Bruce Metzger
    Wikipedia: Carlo Maria Martini
    Carlo Maria Martini, S.J., (15 February 1927 – 31 August 2012) was an Italian Jesuit and cardinal of the Catholic Church. He was Archbishop of Milan from 1980 to 2002 and was elevated to the cardinalate in 1983.

    Martini entered the Society of Jesus in 1944and was ordained a priest in 1952. His appointment as Archbishop of Milan in 1980 was an unusual circumstance, as Jesuits are not traditionally named bishops. He was on the liberal wing of the church hierarchy.

    Same-sex unions

    In his book Credere e conoscere, published shortly before his death, Martini set out his disagreement with the Catholic teaching against homosexual civil unions. "I disagree with the positions of those in the Church that take issue with civil unions", he wrote. "It is not bad, instead of casual sex between men
    Kurt Aland (28 March 1915 – 13 April 1994)

    He was one of the principal editors of Nestle-Aland - Novum Testamentum Graece for the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft and The Greek New Testament for the United Bible Societies.

    Aland was married twice. His first marriage was to Ingeborg Aland (1941-1971) (they had three children together). In 1972 he married Barbara Aland.

    He died in Münster, Germany in 1994.
    The adulterous relationship Barbara had with Kurt paid off, right after their 1972 marriage, she was elevated quickly?

    Wikipedia: Barbara Aland

    Barbara Aland, née Ehlers (born 12 April 1937 in Hamburg, Germany)

    Since 1972 she acted as private lecturer, later on she became professorship for "Church History and New Testament Research with eminently consideration of Christian Orient" at the Evangelisch-Theologischen Fakultät in Münster, Germany. In 1983 she became director of the Institute for New Testament Textual Research (which was founded in 1959 by her husband Kurt Aland) and also the Bible Museum.

    This institute achieved worldwide significance by publishing the "Nestle-Aland" - Novum Testamentum Graece and the UBS Greek New Testament.
    Last edited by Mod10; 02-01-19, 10:03 AM. Reason: flag; no violation; not personal towards anyone on the board; opinion

  • praise_yeshua
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    Originally posted by Truth7t7 View Post
    Amen, I do the same, nothing more is needed to be said!
    But you've proven yourself wrong. Why would you want to remain wrong.....and claim God's overcome your limitations when there is no evidence that He has?

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  • Truth7t7
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    What can we say about how God preserved His Word to His people down through history, that men have corrupted Bibles God has placed in the hands of His people? There may be some problems in some or all translations but there is no problem with God's infallible eternal Word and God is not hampered from giving His humble people good understandings of His perfect Word even if he has to use translations that are a little tilted. Since there seems to be a common consensus that translations are ill affected by the work of human translation I will still stick with the KJV as being the best in my studied opinion and I trust God to give good understanding of His perfect Word through the KJV when speaking to me.
    Amen, I do the same, nothing more is needed to be said!

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  • praise_yeshua
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    What can we say about how God preserved His Word to His people down through history, that men have corrupted Bibles God has placed in the hands of His people? There may be some problems in some or all translations but there is no problem with God's infallible eternal Word and God is not hampered from giving His humble people good understandings of His perfect Word even if he has to use translations that are a little tilted. Since there seems to be a common consensus that translations are ill affected by the work of human translation I will still stick with the KJV as being the best in my studied opinion and I trust God to give good understanding of His perfect Word through the KJV when speaking to me.
    But you've been so wrong about so many things in the KJV. Your method produces error. You unequally apply your own demands of the "bible". Your choice is nothing more than your choice... and an imperfect one at that.

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by praise_yeshua View Post

    The manner in-which you're using Matthew 7:18 demands you apply it equally. You KJV came forth from corrupt translators, corrupt collators, and a corrupt authorizer.
    What can we say about how God preserved His Word to His people down through history, that men have corrupted Bibles God has placed in the hands of His people? There may be some problems in some or all translations but there is no problem with God's infallible eternal Word and God is not hampered from giving His humble people good understandings of His perfect Word even if he has to use translations that are a little tilted. Since there seems to be a common consensus that translations are ill affected by the work of human translation I will still stick with the KJV as being the best in my studied opinion and I trust God to give good understanding of His perfect Word through the KJV when speaking to me.

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  • praise_yeshua
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    Originally posted by Truth7t7 View Post
    You mean those 72 professing Christian men who worked on the 1611 KJV were wrong 400 years ago, we have been lied to all along?

    Only to have Adulterers Kurt, Barbara, and homosexual union supporter Carlo Martini, create the true Greek translation (Novum Testamentum Graece) in presenting the world with God's truth, that removes the verses in question below?

    Matthew 17:21, 18:11, Acts 8:37, Romans 16:24 in my "Main Body Of Text" KJV

    Matthew 7:18KJV
    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
    The manner in-which you're using Matthew 7:18 demands you apply it equally. You KJV came forth from corrupt translators, corrupt collators, and a corrupt authorizer.

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  • Redmond
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    Originally posted by Truth7t7 View Post
    Barbara was never married to Kurt Aland as per God's word, therefore she couldn't be a widow.

    When Kurt died, Barbara was released from the sin of Adultery, Kurt died in the sin in 1994, being married to a woman who wasn't his wife.

    The (Novum Testamentum Graece) and the (UBS Greek New Testament) was completed in 1993 one year before Kurt Aland died, it was a product of corrupt fruit, born out of corrupt trees as seen in Kurt and Barbara's Adultery.

    Mark 10:11-12KJV
    11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
    12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

    Matthew 7:18KJV
    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
    Rot and nonsense.

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  • Beloved Daughter
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    Originally posted by Conan View Post
    Why not discuss what is wrong with their textual theories or their Greek Text instead of mearly attacking their character? The character of someone who is dead and a widow?
    It's easier to spread gossip, back-biting, and character assassination. Studying textual criticism/Greek/Hebrew requires hard work to become proficient. It takes years of devotion.

    This is too much work for KJVOnlies. The scriptures teach that we should test everything and study. They aren't willing to do so. This thread is just a spin off of many that has been posted over and over again over the 5+ years I have been here. It has no purpose whatsoever.

    Jesus spoke with prostitutes many times and He dealt with them in kindness. What a friend we have in Jesus. His mercies remain forever.

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  • Trucker
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    Originally posted by J316 View Post
    Originally posted by Trucker;n580***9

    [B]Three of your alleged missing verses are not missing at all, sir. They are found where they belong!

    Matthew 17:21 is found in Mark 9:29

    Mathew 18:11 is found in Luke 19:10

    Romans 6:24 is found at Romans 6:20
    A man got his right hand paralyzed through vaccination. Seeing he cannot use his right hand anymore said to the doctor:
    Patient: Look at what you have done to me, do you know i can sue you for this?
    Doctor: There is no problem my friend stop complaining, your right hand is found at your left hand.
    All of which ignores and diverts from the issue here. What is the manuscript evidence for or against the verses in question here. The KJVOs want to arbitrarily enthrone the KJV as the standard of reference. It isn't. Get over it.

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  • Truth7t7
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    Originally posted by Conan View Post
    Why not discuss what is wrong with their textual theories or their Greek Text instead of mearly attacking their character? The character of someone who is dead and a widow?
    Barbara was never married to Kurt Aland as per God's word, therefore she couldn't be a widow.

    When Kurt died, Barbara was released from the sin of Adultery, Kurt died in the sin in 1994, being married to a woman who wasn't his wife.

    The (Novum Testamentum Graece) and the (UBS Greek New Testament) was completed in 1993 one year before Kurt Aland died, it was a product of corrupt fruit, born out of corrupt trees as seen in Kurt and Barbara's Adultery.

    Mark 10:11-12KJV
    11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
    12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

    Matthew 7:18KJV
    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
    Last edited by Truth7t7; 02-04-19, 11:33 PM.

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  • Conan
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    Why not discuss what is wrong with their textual theories or their Greek Text instead of mearly attacking their character? The character of someone who is dead and a widow?

    Leave a comment:


  • Truth7t7
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    Originally posted by Conan View Post
    You do not know that he put his wife away. How do you not know that she left him for someone else? Were you neighbors of theirs? Former friends? All you have is bad character. Do people with bad character know more about the facts of The Bible than you do? What does that say about you? All you do is attack others character. You never fight with facts of the issue.Learn at least what the Alands learned about the Bible. Then you can intelligently present facts against their theories, instead of character smear, which makes you look extremely childish and weak.
    The Holy scripture Kurt and Barbara didnt "Learn" is seen below.

    Mark 10:11-12KJV
    11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
    12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

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  • Conan
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    You do not know that he put his wife away. How do you not know that she left him for someone else? Were you neighbors of theirs? Former friends? All you have is bad character. Do people with bad character know more about the facts of The Bible than you do? What does that say about you? All you do is attack others character. You never fight with facts of the issue. Learn at least what the Alands learned about the Bible. Then you can intelligently present facts against their theories, instead of character smear, which makes you look extremely childish and weak.

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  • Truth7t7
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    Originally posted by Conan View Post
    You do not know who or what they are. You are giving false witness against them. You do not have the right to lie against and slander them. They were better people than you are.
    No lies, slander, or false witness just the "Truth"

    Kurt Aland divorced his wife Ingeborg of 30 years, and ran off and married the college girl 22 years younger than himself in Barbara Ehlers.

    Kurt & Barbara both produced the (Novum Testamentum Graece) while actively in the sin of "Adultery", a fact and no secret.

    Mark 10:11-12KJV
    11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
    12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
    Last edited by Truth7t7; 02-04-19, 08:20 PM.

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  • Conan
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    Originally posted by Truth7t7 View Post
    You mean those 72 professing Christian men who worked on the 1611 KJV were wrong 400 years ago, we have been lied to all along?
    Whenever they bowed neck to Rome, they were wrong.

    Only to have Adulterers Kurt, Barbara,
    You do not know who or what they are. You are giving false witness against them. You do not have the right to lie against and slander them. They were better people than you are.

    and homosexual union supporter Carlo Maria Martini
    You have no credibility whatsoever. This person could read biblical languages. He was far more intelligent than you. Try and come up to his level for a change.

    in providing the true Greek translation (Novum Testamentum Graece) in presenting the world with God's truth, that removes the verses in question?

    Matthew 17:21, 18:11, Acts 8:37, Romans 16:24 in my "Main Body Of Text" KJV
    Tell us what is the evidence for and against. List all Greek manuscripts and early versions for and against these verses. The Alands could do it. Can you? Mr. Martini could. Can you give testimony like the others? Or is your testimony nothing but lies and slander?

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