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  • False Teachers/Purpose and scope of the Forums

    "What about the false teachers?

    by Matt Slick

    There are board participants who don't like that unbelievers are allowed to teach their false doctrines. They complain that I am aiding and abetting the enemy. I have two responses for this. First, if you don't like it, you're free to go elsewhere. Second, this is an apologetics ministry and we don't censor someone for an opinion, for not being honest, for believing something false, etc. People are entitled to their opinions even if those opinions contradict Scripture.

    Christians should take up the slack, learn to defend the truth, and confront the enemies of the gospel. You accomplish this by actual encounters with actual unbelievers and false teachers. You don't learn how to do this by banning them because they weren't honest, didn't respond to a post, or avoided answering difficult questions. Apologetics, in the real world, is often messy and CARM has no intention of providing apron strings for people to hang on to while they dip their toes in the cold waters of anti-Christian discussion.

    CARM will not babysit anyone. If you can't handle the heavy lifting of apologetics, then don't get involved. It takes time and practice to learn to answer properly. It isn't always easy to do and they don't always respond properly.

    Nevertheless, if you think someone is saying something that's dishonest, then call him (or her) on it -- but do so with documentation and proof. If someone isn't answering direct questions, then point it out. If they aren't seeing sound reason, point it out and get over it. Do what you can but don't expect unbelievers to behave biblically and don't expect CARM to legislate your brand of "fairness". It isn't going to happen."

    "Don't expect wonderful responses (though they are encouraged from everyone). After all, we are dealing with sinners and saints who have different values, different emotional states, different intellectual abilities, different education levels, etc. It isn't going to be easy or perfect.

    So, get out there and do your best."

    "By way of reminder:
    1.People are entitled to their opinions, whether you like them or not and whether or not they are valid.
    2.Just because you don't like what someone says, it has no bearing on the validity or invalidity of your argument or theirs.
    3.If you think someone is wrong, address them logically, factually, and biblically. Don't whine and say, "they aren't fair." Life isn't fair. Tackle them appropriately and do so within the confines of the rules. "
    http://carm.org/forum-response-complaint

    "Purpose and scope of the Forums

    by Matt Slick

    The CARM discussion boards exist for several reasons. First, they are to promote conversation among people with different viewpoints. Second, they are to help train Christians on how to deal with false religious systems. Third, they are to help Christians become better equipped to defend the Christian faith against non-theological systems.

    Because of the nature of discussion and facing false doctrines, this means that Christians will be exposed to anti-Christian arguments from such groups as the Mormons, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the atheists, the evolutionists,1 etc. Some Christians think that this is a bad idea. They say that it is better to have only a discussion board where Christians can talk to Christians without the intrusion and challenge of the unbelievers. If this is how you feel, then these boards are not for you. These discussion boards are an extension of the CARM web site which is dedicated to establishing Christian truth, exposing false teachings, and training Christians. Therefore, it is necessary that the Christian, who wants to be trained and wants to experience a deeper understanding of Christian theology, become exposed to those things that contradict his beliefs. Hopefully, he will then dig deeper into the word of God and become more solid in understanding its truth so he might better speak of God's provision for us in His Son Jesus. Remember, one of the best ways to learn what you believe is to have it challenged. If we want to challenge unbelievers, then we should also expect to be challenged as well.

    The boards are also for reaching the lost. In order to bridge the gap between the believer and unbeliever in our dialogues, there has to be a place to do it. We cannot reach unbelievers if we don't encounter them. This is why the CARM discussion boards have nonreligious topics (food, computers, etc.) to bring in the unchurched, as well as boards dedicated to groups that are anti-Christian, i.e., Islam, atheism, Mormonism, Christadelphianism, etc.

    If the Christian religion is indeed true, then it should be able to stand up under scrutiny and the Christian should learn how to defend it. If Christians are unable to do that, then they need to study and get their facts straight. This is what God calls us to do: "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence" (1 Pet. 3:15). You cannot obey this command if you don't know what you need to be prepared for, and you certainly will not be able to fulfill the command if you do not have your faith challenged; otherwise, how do we "make a defense"?"
    http://carm.org/purpose-and-scope-of-forums
    God Bless,
    Diane S
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