Some Calvinists seem to not believe in freewill. Is that true. God does. It is in His word 17 times.

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fltom said:
Ephesians 1:11 (ESV) — 11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,

There is no mention of God determining all things

you read that into the passage
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So He works out all things with no particular end game in mind then right?

Does all things mean all things without exception? Consistency test.
 
SavedByTheLord said:
I just preach the gospel of Christ and you have to believe the gospel to be saved.

30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I DO to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. - Acts 16:30-31
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Are you saying every person that heard that message were saved?

and:
Act_17:32 Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked. But others said, “We will hear you again about this.”

So what in you just makes you believe the gospel in order to get yourself saved?
 
SavedByTheLord said:
Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them, Whatsoever he be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers in Israel, that will offer his oblation for all his vows, and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the Lord for a burnt offering; - Lev 22:18



And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the Lord to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein. – Lev 22:21



Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts, that mayest thou offer for a freewill offering; but for a vow it shall not be accepted. – Lev 22:23



Beside the sabbaths of the Lord, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the Lord. – Lev 23:38



And will make an offering by fire unto the Lord, a burnt offering, or a sacrifice in performing a vow, or in a freewilloffering, or in your solemn feasts, to make a sweet savour unto the Lord, of the herd or of the flock: - Num 15:3

These things ye shall do unto the Lord in your set feasts, beside your vows, and your freewill offerings, for your burnt offerings, and for your meat offerings, and for your drink offerings, and for your peace offerings.Num 29:39

And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks: - Deut 12:6

Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewillofferings, or heave offering of thine hand: - Deut 12:17

And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto the Lord thy God with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the Lord thy God, according as the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: - Deut 16:10

That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the Lord thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth. – Deut 23:23

And Kore the son of Imnah the Levite, the porter toward the east, was over the freewill offerings of God, to distribute the oblations of the Lord, and the most holy things. – 2 Chron 31:14

And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem. – Ezra 1:4

And afterward offered the continual burnt offering, both of the new moons, and of all the set feasts of the Lord that were consecrated, and of every one that willingly offered a freewilloffering unto the Lord. – Ezra 3:5

I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee. – Ezra 7:13

And all the silver and gold that thou canst find in all the province of Babylon, with the freewill offering of the people, and of the priests, offering willingly for the house of their God which is in Jerusalem: - Ezra 7:16

And I said unto them, Ye are holy unto the Lord; the vessels are holy also; and the silver and the gold are a freewill offering unto the Lord God of your fathers. – Ezra 8:28

Accept, I beseech thee, the freewill offerings of my mouth, O Lord, and teach me thy judgments. – Psalm 119:108

The following is number 18.

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. – Rev 22:17

Are there others which show freewill?

Consider what Paul wrote (see 2 Tim 2:7)

But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. – 2 Cor 4:2
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FYI, scripture says men are volitional; they make choices.
 
SavedByTheLord said:
I just preach the gospel of Christ and you have to believe the gospel to be saved.

30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I DO to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. - Acts 16:30-31
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Believe what exactly?

Must I believe you based on your clever speech? Your wisdom?
How do you persuade people to believe?

You know Mormons and JW's and other sects believe on the Lord Jesus. Where does their wisdom come from? Why did they choose to believe?

People make all sorts of choices every day. Each of those in all likelihood are made to benefit self.

It is the worship of self that we see here all the time.
 
Manfred said:
Believe what exactly?

Must I believe you based on your clever speech? Your wisdom?
How do you persuade people to believe?

You know Mormons and JW's and other sects believe on the Lord Jesus. Where does their wisdom come from? Why did they choose to believe?

People make all sorts of choices every day. Each of those in all likelihood are made to benefit self.

It is the worship of self that we see here all the time.
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Choices they were determined to make?

Choices to believe or not believe?
 
CookedGoose said:
Then what does it mean?

de·ter·mine
[dəˈtərmən]

VERB
  1. cause (something) to occur in a particular way; be the decisive factor in:
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works out

My Bible Word Study
Lemma

ἐνεργέω energeō work; be at work; be in action; produce
 
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