The NT is not an add on

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balshan

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RCs have devalued the word of God in many ways. But one likes to keep destroying the NT by claiming it is an add on.

Of course this is wrong and is meant to justify their evil institution which it doesn't and its adding of false doctrines to the scriptures.

The NT is confirming that the promised new covenant is now fulfilled. It gives the details of this fulfillment.

Peter confirms that Paul's writings are scripture. This is before the bad tree came into existence. Paul is one of the main contributors to the NT.

2 Peter 3

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

The OT also makes up a lot of the NT. In fact, the NT helps us understand the OT.

The reason the extra books the RC have added are not accepted is because they have errors in them for a start, there were false teachings, these are two of many reasons to leave them out. The Jewish people did not have them as their scriptures, but said they were good to read. If you need to understand more Matt Slick wrote an article reasons why the apocrypha does not belong in the bible.

So we do not need the RCC to tell us the NT is part of the scriptures and it is not an add on. God has revealed this truth to true believers.

So why do RCs belittle the word of God by using such defences?
 
balshan said:
RCs have devalued the word of God in many ways. But one likes to keep destroying the NT by claiming it is an add on.
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That's like saying that the motor in a car is an "add-on" ?
Luk 24:25-27 [EMTV] Then He [Jesus] said to them, "O you foolish, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?" And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
balshan said:
So why do RCs belittle the word of God by using such defences?
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That's more an offense than it is a defense! It also shows that the RCs could care less about the Word of God. (Who became flesh and dwelt among us.) The whole RCC Org is concerned about only one thing: staying in power over any who "enter her house", as Proverbs says. If they need to warp and twist the truth, so what. The God of the Bible only exists to give them power over their self-blinded followers.

--Rich
"Esse quam videri"
 
balshan said:
RCs have devalued the word of God in many ways. But one likes to keep destroying the NT by claiming it is an add on.

Of course this is wrong and is meant to justify their evil institution which it doesn't and its adding of false doctrines to the scriptures.

The NT is confirming that the promised new covenant is now fulfilled. It gives the details of this fulfillment.

Peter confirms that Paul's writings are scripture. This is before the bad tree came into existence. Paul is one of the main contributors to the NT.

2 Peter 3

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

The OT also makes up a lot of the NT. In fact, the NT helps us understand the OT.

The reason the extra books the RC have added are not accepted is because they have errors in them for a start, there were false teachings, these are two of many reasons to leave them out. The Jewish people did not have them as their scriptures, but said they were good to read. If you need to understand more Matt Slick wrote an article reasons why the apocrypha does not belong in the bible.

So we do not need the RCC to tell us the NT is part of the scriptures and it is not an add on. God has revealed this truth to true believers.

So why do RCs belittle the word of God by using such defences?
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Can you give an explicit example of Catholics claiming the New Testament to be an "add on." What does that even mean? Honestly this post is just nonsensical to me. Do you mean tear out books of the Bible and add words according to your own perverted belief like Luther did?
 
Mysterium Fidei said:
Can you give an explicit example of Catholics claiming the New Testament to be an "add on." What does that even mean? Honestly this post is just nonsensical to me. Do you mean tear out books of the Bible and add words according to your own perverted belief like Luther did?
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ask the catholics who post it. are you another catholic with limited reading of posts on here?
 
Mysterium Fidei said:
Can you give an explicit example of Catholics claiming the New Testament to be an "add on." What does that even mean? Honestly this post is just nonsensical to me. Do you mean tear out books of the Bible and add words according to your own perverted belief like Luther did?
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authority of the church post 956 I think. I don't know how to link sorry. That is one example. It often turns up in threads.
 
Mysterium Fidei said:
Can you give an explicit example of Catholics claiming the New Testament to be an "add on." What does that even mean? Honestly this post is just nonsensical to me. Do you mean tear out books of the Bible and add words according to your own perverted belief like Luther did?
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No but it appears there is a lot RCs want to rip out of scripture. You really hate Luther don't you? What has he got to do with the op.
 
balshan said:
RCs have devalued the word of God in many ways. But one likes to keep destroying the NT by claiming it is an add on.

Of course this is wrong and is meant to justify their evil institution which it doesn't and its adding of false doctrines to the scriptures.

The NT is confirming that the promised new covenant is now fulfilled. It gives the details of this fulfillment.

Peter confirms that Paul's writings are scripture. This is before the bad tree came into existence. Paul is one of the main contributors to the NT.

2 Peter 3

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

The OT also makes up a lot of the NT. In fact, the NT helps us understand the OT.

The reason the extra books the RC have added are not accepted is because they have errors in them for a start, there were false teachings, these are two of many reasons to leave them out. The Jewish people did not have them as their scriptures, but said they were good to read. If you need to understand more Matt Slick wrote an article reasons why the apocrypha does not belong in the bible.

So we do not need the RCC to tell us the NT is part of the scriptures and it is not an add on. God has revealed this truth to true believers.

So why do RCs belittle the word of God by using such defenses?
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We don't belittle the Word of God, only the Protestant retelling and redefinition of God's Word. We hold the New Testament is fulfilled in the New Testament. You have to know and understand the Old Testament to understand the New Testament and the Church the New Testament

The Church, as early as apostolic times,( Cf. 1 Cor 10:6,11; Heb 10:l; l Pet 3:21.) and then constantly in her Tradition, has illuminated the unity of the divine plan in the two Testaments through typology, which discerns in God's works of the Old Covenant prefigurations of what he accomplished in the fullness of time in the person of his incarnate Son. [CCC 128]​
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Christians therefore read the Old Testament in the light of Christ crucified and risen. Such typological reading discloses the inexhaustible content of the Old Testament; but it must not make us forget that the Old Testament retains its own intrinsic value as Revelation reaffirmed by our Lord himself.( Cf. Mk 12:29-31) Besides, the New Testament has to be read in the light of the Old. Early Christian catechesis made constant use of the Old Testament. ( Cf. 1 Cor 5:6-8; 10:1-11.) As an old saying put it, the New Testament lies hidden in the Old and the Old Testament is unveiled in the New.( 1 Cor 15:28)[CCC 129]​


JoeT
 
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Mysterium Fidei said:
Can you give an explicit example of Catholics claiming the New Testament to be an "add on." What does that even mean? Honestly this post is just nonsensical to me. Do you mean tear out books of the Bible and add words according to your own perverted belief like Luther did?
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balshan said:
No but it appears there is a lot RCs want to rip out of scripture. You really hate Luther don't you? What has he got to do with the op.
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WELCOME TO Catholic Responses 101

8:- Attack Martin Luther Technique
This can be used as a companion apologetic to the
Attack Sola Scriptura technique.
Always refer to your opponent as a Protestant to imply
that Biblical Christianity began with the "Reformation."
Always insist your opponent is a follower of Martin Luther,
or one of the other Reformers,
Do not accept any denials of this.
Rubber-stamp him as a follower of Heresy
 
JoeT said:
We don't belittle the Word of God, only the Protestant retelling and redefinition of God's Word. We hold the New Testament is fulfilled in the New Testament. You have to know and understand the Old Testament to understand the New Testament and the Church the New Testament

The Church, as early as apostolic times,( Cf. 1 Cor 10:6,11; Heb 10:l; l Pet 3:21.) and then constantly in her Tradition, has illuminated the unity of the divine plan in the two Testaments through typology, which discerns in God's works of the Old Covenant prefigurations of what he accomplished in the fullness of time in the person of his incarnate Son. [CCC 128]​
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Christians therefore read the Old Testament in the light of Christ crucified and risen. Such typological reading discloses the inexhaustible content of the Old Testament; but it must not make us forget that the Old Testament retains its own intrinsic value as Revelation reaffirmed by our Lord himself.( Cf. Mk 12:29-31) Besides, the New Testament has to be read in the light of the Old. Early Christian catechesis made constant use of the Old Testament. ( Cf. 1 Cor 5:6-8; 10:1-11.) As an old saying put it, the New Testament lies hidden in the Old and the Old Testament is unveiled in the New.( 1 Cor 15:28)[CCC 129]​


JoeT
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Oh give us all a break RCs are doing it all the time. I mean they say things like it is not a manual, it is not the originals, how do you it is God's word etc. But the op is about this one particular devaluing by saying the NT is an add and therefore that means it is not scripture.
 
Mysterium Fidei said:
Who posted it? Give an example. Why the guessing games....unless it's not true
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It is true and if I could link I would, it comes up regularly and if you read all the RCs posts in these threads then you would have seen it, of course you claiming you haven't seen it means either you don't read their posts or you are pretending you haven't seen it.
 
mica said:
ask the catholics who post it. are you another catholic with limited reading of posts on here?
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Mysterium Fidei said:
Who posted it? Give an example. Why the guessing games....unless it's not true
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I don't keep a spreadsheet of what catholics post here. why don't you pay more attention to what they post here? it's true and has been posted more than once.

see post 17 (thx Buzzard)
 
balshan said:
Oh give us all a break RCs are doing it all the time. I mean they say things like it is not a manual, it is not the originals, how do you it is God's word etc. But the op is about this one particular devaluing by saying the NT is an add and therefore that means it is not scripture.
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anything to discredit His word.
 
mica said:
I don't keep a spreadsheet of what catholics post here. why don't you pay more attention to what they post here? it's true and has been posted more than once.

see post 17 (thx Buzzard)
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The spreadsheet idea is a good one with references. If only we had nothing else to do or in my case I could do a spread sheet.
 
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