Eightcrackers
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No, because it does not harm them.Hate (of another) is immoral.
No, because it does not harm them.Hate (of another) is immoral.
Do you factor in mental and emotional harm?No, because it does not harm them.
No, because it does not harm them.
This seems an odd position. Fantasising about having sex with infants is plainly immoral, but doesn’t, in itself, harm anybody.And since it harms nobody else, it cannot be immoral.
Yes - if I hate you, how are you harmed in any way?Do you factor in mental and emotional harm?
No, it's not.This seems an odd position. Fantasising about having sex with infants is plainly immoral,
Only in so far as these things influence actions.In general, we morally evaluate people for their attitudes, dispositions, desires, intentions, and so on.
I could be harmed by your words you type.Yes - if I hate you, how are you harmed in any way?
Would you consider buying materials in which you could watch the act immoral?No, it's not.
The act is immoral.
Only in so far as these things influence actions.
Not least because, unless these things are acted upon, we would never know what they are.
Typing - speech - is an action.I could be harmed by your words you type.
See above.If I were married to you, I would be harmed by hateful
If children were harmed in the production, yes, because you are perpetuating that harm.Would you consider buying materials in which you could watch the act immoral?
No, it's not.
The act is immoral.
Only in so far as these things influence actions.
Not least because, unless these things are acted upon, we would never know what they are.
No such thing as an immoral thought, only a thought about an immoral action.So thinking to oneself all alone as to how great it would be to "lynch all the ni**ers in the world" is NOT an immoral thought?
I define immorality to include motive as well - if the action would cause harm.And you ignored Lucian's question as to whether adultery unbeknownst to the wife is immoral.
No such thing as an immoral thought, only a thought about an immoral action.
No black person is harmed by the thought you suggested.
Correct.OK, so you see nothing immoral about thinking all blacks are scum who need to be lynched.
What belief?It might be best for you to keep that belief to yourself.
If that's what he sees, then he's correct. Morality is simply "principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior".OK, so you see nothing immoral about thinking all blacks are scum who need to be lynched.
Correct.
A thought harms nobody, and so cannot be immoral; there is nothing immoral about thinking anything.
What belief?
If that's what he sees, then he's correct. Morality is simply "principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior".
Thinking isn't behavior.
For an atheist morals are based on opinion that changes with the times and culture.If that's what he sees, then he's correct. Morality is simply "principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior".
Thinking isn't behavior.
But thinking is not behaviour.For an atheist morals are based on opinion that changes with the times and culture.
Thinking influences behavior.
Seems pretty clear Christians are faced with the exact same problem, with changing opinions about the morality of slavery being a salient example. However, let's sidestep that debate and accept it for the sake of conversation. You followed it with this:For an atheist morals are based on opinion that changes with the times and culture.
So does oxygen. Genetics, too. Can we therefore label each moral or immoral?Thinking influences behavior.