It's like I said in another post....The Father, Son and Holy Spirit actually and individually exist and interact with each other they are not modes, roles, office works or a ventriloquist act...Heard a woman on tic toc say that when Jesus was on the cross he was talking to himself...this denies...
God is not a mode shifter that denies the Father, Son and Holy Spirit reality of existence.
Jesus never identifies HIMSELF as the Father...No one in the New Testament calls Jesus the Father.
Jesus does not identify HIMSELF as the Holy Spirit....this is not by accident.
Jesus calls the Father and...
Do the Father...Son...and Holy Spirit actually and individually exist?
Do they interact with each other on our behalf?
Notice how Jesus always called the Father and the Holy Spirit....HE...HIM...ANOTHER.
JESUS NEVER SAYS...I am the Father or I am the Holy Spirit.
Clear distinction of existence...
In this battle of Trinity and Oneness we see evidence explained away....
The Father and Son and their actual existence must be reduced to roles, modes or that's not what that means status.
Lines are removed when verses context and subject matter are ignored...
For example...John 4:23-24...
But...
This is another prime example of Eraser Theology...Do everything you can to remove REALITY OF EXISTENCE...The Father and Jesus are a ventriloquist act.
When real interaction is presented what removes that reality....for example Romans 8:26
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for...
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
What are these 2 verses saying to us?
Colossians 1:13-17 makes it clear that the SON created all things that gives him the status of GOD.
Thomas declared to JESUS the SON...My Lord and My God.
The oldest Sources of John P66 and P75 read at John 1:18...the only begotten God.
Jesus told the Jews...Before Abraham was I AM.
Titus...
There is no one in the New Testament that identifies Jesus as the Father and that includes Jesus himself...
God exists as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit....that is the teaching of Jesus, Paul, John and Peter.
The interaction is between The Father and the Holy Spirit on our behalf
The same occurs between the Father and Jesus on our behalf.
This is real interaction for us....
Oneness please don't fall down and hit your heads....look at the evidence.
Romans 8:26...Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered....This is...