A different gospel?
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Carbon
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His teaching will come out but, I was just curious how other Christians felt about the question of the op.
But that’s a great question!
Dizerner
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I think it's much more important whether he denies PSA.
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Don't Tell Me N.T. Wright Denies "Penal Substitution"
N.T. Wright holds the distinction of being one of the few theologians of our day who regularly contradicts and opposes the liberal wing of the academy while simultaneously alienating and perplexing many conservatives within the Reformed tradition. Liberal scholars scoff at his insistence upon...
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Carbon
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Personally I believe in imputation. I believe it’s clearly taught in scripture.
I believe people need to study and figure this one out. If scripture teaches imputation of Christ’s righteousness and we disagree with it; which Christ do we believe in?
It’s important we believe in the right Jesus Christ. Many have their own Jesus, the Mormons, JW’s, etc… etc…
Carbon
Super Member
Yep, that’s another important biblical teaching he denies. This man is on a slippery slope. But I’m still curious how other Christian’s think of the op
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guest1
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Personally I believe what is most disturbing is this by Wright.
“I do not think Jesus “knew he was God” in the same sense that one knows one is tired or happy, male or female. He did not sit back and say to himself, ‘Well, I never! I’m the second person of the Trinity!’ ( N.T. Wright, The Meaning of Jesus, 154).”
In my opinion that is a false christ which leads to a false gospel. The Gospel and Christ go hand in hand together. One cannot separate the Person from the Gospel. If you get Jesus wrong, the gospel is wrong.
Carbon
Super Member
Amen!
Carbon
Super Member
What comes to mind is when Jesus said, “ I and the Father are One”
How does Wright get around these things.
And that’s just one of many verses.
Carbon
Super Member
This should be part of the op.
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guest1
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Yes there are so many times Jesus claimed to be God and His enemies knew very well His claims and tried on numerous occasions to stone Him.
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guest1
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So that is the scary thing when you have truth mixed with error like wright does in many areas. But the big red flag for me is what he believes about Christ and His Deity.
Carbon
Super Member
That is a red flag indeed!
ReverendRV
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I think Adam is a historical person who is described to us in the Bible. I think that Imputation as described by the Penal Substitutionary Atonement is a component of Justification through Faith in Christ...
Dizerner
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These two things would not be the most important differences for me. He doesn't deny the existence of a historical figurehead of the human race, and imputation is not the most important facet of at least acknowledging a righteousness by faith.
I do have problems with other things I read from N. T. Wright, however, like his NPP stuff. It seems like reverting back to legalism.
I do have problems with other things I read from N. T. Wright, however, like his NPP stuff. It seems like reverting back to legalism.
Carbon
Super Member
Amen brother!
ReverendRV
Well-known member
I think Jesus always knew he is God...
Carbon
Super Member
Absolutely!
Carbon
Super Member
There are just to many passages from both the old and new testaments to list which teach Jesus is God.
Thinking particularly on John 1.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Carbon
Super Member
How could anyone get around this passage in John.
And to think this man is highly respected ??
In theology ?