Greetings again Towerwatchman,Mere man, glorified man, exalted man, pick any adjective you want, your Jesus is a man.
So l will ask you again.
If Jesus was a man who died on a cross, how can a man [who just died] sustain the universe, by the power of His {Jesus] word? How does a man sustain the universe when he is dead and buried for 3 days?
Hint, only God can sustain the universe. Omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscience.
It is not talking about Jesus when he was dead for three days. God's power has been given to Jesus, the Son of God, a man now glorified. The fact that this power was given to him proves that he did not previously possess this power, and hence he was not God the Son.
Matthew 28:18 (KJV): And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
You ignore all of what Jesus states:Jn 5:17But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” 18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.
John 5:19,26–27,30 (KJV): 19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
If he was God the Son he would not be dependent upon God the Father. as he would already have the power and authority.
Read all of John 10:30-36 where he rejects and answers their charge and claims that he is the Son of God, not God the Son.Jn 10:33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
Yes, Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, not God the Son.Jn 19:7 The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and according to [a]our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God.”
I am not sure what you consider to be the main point of Matthew 1:20-21 and Luke 1:34-35, but let me explain what I consider these passages are teaching. They teach that Jesus is a man, and his father in the conception / birth process was God the Father and his mother was Mary.Funny, asking me to provide X, when you know that X is not mentioned in the Bible. Call it what you want, incarnation, immaculate conception, spiritual insemination, its not the main point.
To repeat this passage is speaking about the disposition of the mind of Christ before and during his ministry. Jesus is not claiming or grasping at equality with God. "God" here is external to Jesus. It does not say God the Son did not consider it robbery to be equal with God the Father, which is how you are reading this.Phil 2:6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
Philippians 2:5–8 (NASB95): 5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
Philippians 2:5–8 (ESV): 5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
The thoughts of Jesus are in contrast to Adam and Eve who grasped at equality with God:
Genesis 3:4–5 (ASV 1901): 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as God, knowing good and evil.
Genesis 3:5 (NASB95): “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
The flow of thought is from considering his exalted status being born the greatest prince that ever lived, the Son of God and then considering his frail humanity and weakness and the same with his contemporaries who would perish without salvation. Instead of acting like Absalom, he humbled himself and became obedient unto the death on a cross, a submission of his will to God's will. This makes sense as our example, but the supposed incarnation is not a specific example to us.
Why does it specifically say to the glory of God the Father.Bad logic, 'the Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible, proves that the Trinity does not exist'.
I will hold to the simple and clear teaching of Matthew 1:20-21 and Luke 1:34-35. I will consider the many other passages individually, and have a different perspective on most of the passages that are misconstrued in support of the Trinity.Again, keeping the topic in insolation by narrowing it down to several verses that partially address the topic in your favor, is poor scholarship. The above verses address how Mary will become pregnant, [that is the topic]. And you use it to argue that Jesus did not exist before Mary becoming pregnant when there is tremendous evidence of Jesus did exist before Mary's pregnancy.
Despite your references I do not consider that flesh and spirit are in antithesis in Romans 1:1-4.Antithesis = a figure of speech in which an opposition or contrast of ideas is expressed by parallelism of words that are the opposites of, or strongly contrasted with, each other, such as “hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all sins”.
Jesus' birth was as a result of the Divine intervention. His Spirit of holiness was also the result of God's intervention in the conception / birth and the Divine instruction of Jesus. Thus again, there is no antithesis, but these items both prove that Jesus is the Son of God."was born of the seed of David according to the flesh" Physical
"and declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness" Divine
I endorse "I will be/become what/who I will be/become". Refer my thread "The Yahweh Name".Now to God. Is it "I am who I am" =eternal existence, or "I am who I Become" = gives more the sense that the outcome is the product of God.
I suggest Psalm 8:5 is a considerable and clear summary of Genesis 1:26-27.Its neither implicit or explicit.
There is a principle that states that what one does through others he does by himself. Julius Caesar said "I came, I saw, I conquered" an English translation of the Latin veni, vidi, vici. We also say a particular architect built a famous building. One of my ancestors was a stone mason building St Paul's Cathedral. Yahweh made/created Adam and Eve.Notice what God said, "Us make..." " Our image", " Our likeness". If God was speaking to the angles then God would have created man in the image of God and angles, whether or not it was God alone or with the angels. Vs.27 states that God created man in His image and likeness alone. Whoever "Us" is, is the one that man was made in the image and likeness of. vs27 =YHWH alone.
Kind regards
Trevor