Why do you guys worship Jesus as a god.
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Others used the name of Jesus who weren't believers (Acts 19:13).
You should really study the Bible more before you post such nonsense.
Jesus is the Almighty.
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Amen one cannot be saved if they deny Jesus physical/ bodily resurrection as per 1 Corinthians 15.
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Without the bodily resurrection which was permanent one has no Savior and you are still dead in your sins according to the Apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:17
Many deny Jesus was Resurrected and Ascended into heaven bodily( a human body with real flesh and bones) and are still dead in their sins even though they might claim to be a christian. That is an oxymoron.
Luke 24:37-43
37 But they were startled and frightened and thought that they were seeing a spirit. 38 And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." 40 And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet. 41 While they still could not believe it because of their joy and amazement, He said to them, "Have you anything here to eat?" 42 They gave Him a piece of a broiled fish; 43 and He took it and ate it before them.
John 20:24-25
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples were saying to him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."
John 20:27-28
27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe." 28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
There is one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (1Timothy 2:5) post ascension.
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.(Hebrews 13:5) Changeless, Immutable. Jesus was a man when He walked this earth, when He Ascended and when He will return again at His 2nd Coming.
1 Corinthians 15:1-8
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; 7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.
1 Corinthians 15:14-18
14 and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. 15 Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; 17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.
2 Corinthians 5:1-10
For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. 2 We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. 3 For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies. 4 While we live in these earthly bodies, we groan and sigh, but it's not that we want to die and get rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want to put on our new bodies so that these dying bodies will be swallowed up by life. 5 God himself has prepared us for this, and as a guarantee he has given us his Holy Spirit.6 So we are always confident, even though we know that as long as we live in these bodies we are not at home with the Lord. 7 For we live by believing and not by seeing. 8 Yes, we are fully confident, and we would rather be away from these earthly bodies, for then we will be at home with the Lord. 9 So whether we are here in this body or away from this body, our goal is to please him.
In Heaven.... Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Look up the meaning of the word soma below, it always means a physical body in relation to anthropos(man).
His Body.....Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Matthew 27:52-53
52 The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
Philippians 3:20-21
And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.
1 Corinthians 15:44-45
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 that if Christ be not risen your faith is in vain and you are still dead in your sins- an unbeliever who is lost. Those who deny the physical bodily resurrection of Jesus such as the JW's who teach that Jesus is now a spirit based being fit into this camp. They deny the resurrection.
If we look at what Paul is saying in this passage, it is that corruptible flesh and blood shall not enter the kingdom. Paul says corruptible does not inherit the incorruptible. Paul is not saying the resurrection body will not have flesh but what he declares is that the resurrected body will not have perishable flesh. Remember in Luke Jesus said see here My hands and feet, touch Me a spirit/ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. Peter, Paul and John all agree that Jesus still had flesh well after His ascension. 1 John being the last of the books of the three Apostles declared that Jesus having come in the flesh and those who deny this are the spirit of antichrist. John makes it clear that the Incarnation was permanent. Jesus is forever both God and man. This is what Paul teaches in the whole 15th chapter of 1 Corinthians. The glorious physical bodies that we will have in the resurrection. We will have incorruptible bodies just as Jesus now has in heaven.
hope this helps !!!
I suppose you have to do these sorts of things.
Let's read Acts 2:33
29 “Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.
I'm not sure what your train of though here is, but Peter seems pretty adamant that the promise came from the father of Jesus and that Jesus is not his own father.
Let's go through Peter's claims:
- God promised David an oath (see Psalm 16)
- The promise that one of his descendants would be on his throne
- Implicit in the promise is the resurrection
- Fulfilling the promise, God raised Jesus to eternal life (i.e. Jesus is not God and God is not Jesus)
- Jesus is exalted to God's right hand (David's throne, fulfilling the promise of Psalm 16)
- Jesus received the promise of the holy spirit from God (from Joel 2)
- And Jesus gave it to his followers on Pentecost (fulfilling Joel 2).
How you got the idea that Jesus is his own father from this passage is an absolute mystery. The passage is absolutely clear, God raised Jesus. Jesus is not God. God is not Jesus. The two are sitting next to each other on David's throne. God made the promise to David, and God is fulfilling the promise to David, and the promise in Joel.
(do you actually bother to read and comprehend the arguments being made by the biblical authors?)
In all that you managed to dodge (1) Acts 2:33 in that Jesus poured out the Holy Spirit, and (2) the evidence I supplied that the "Lord" in Acts 2:21 refers to Jesus.
Keep up the awful work.
When all else fails, your go to strawman.
Prayer with my God is simple, communication with Him, talking WITH Him instead of just to Him.
Jesus made the most simple but profound statement when he took his disciples on the mountain to pray. --- He said, watch WITH me, not for me.
Not may will understand that statement.
I dont even know who Stephen was. Never met him so I cant comment from lack in hearing his side of it.
And all that I know about the apostles is most of them was self anointed and had their own opinions about a god and Jesus. And I think that his why Jesus chose those who were not of a religious belief to follow him as his disciples, they didn't have any religious laws to unlearn!
Our pews are full of these for sure!
You should receive from God that what Jesus did in Matt 3:16 or you will never understand the book and what it is for, let alone Jesus and his God that did open to Him that what He would open in you if you receieved Him as Jesus did.
You should study the Bible more to see what it actually says. For to you the ways of God to be like Him as the book is clear that we be, is foreign to your understanding from lack in having the mind fo Christ, Anointed of God, as Jesus receieved His mind, Spirit, in Matty 3:16.
You really should study a little deeper. You only wade in the shallows of a beach of a very deep ocean.
No they followed Jesus but didnt become like Him until God came to them just as He did in Jesus in Matt 3;16 in an upper room and opened who He is and all of His heaven in them just as He does in us all today who will receieve Him as Jesus and these did.
It is noting new, Adam was the very first record to receive from God and become like Him, Gen 3:22, not Jesus at all LOL. Abraham, Moses, 120, Jesus di in Matt 3:16 and all today do who receives the same as these did from Him.
You dont know what that is for God to come to you as He did these do you?
The evidence is God came to all of these by His Spirit and opens up all of His heaven in us who He is come to as He did in these we read of. You just have a different god from the One who did come to Jesus in Matt 3:16 and these in an upper room, and Adam Gen 3;22, and Abraham, and Moses and me.
what you are dodging.
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Must drive a Dodge Dart
Your ignorance for who God is.
No A Dodge 2500 Ram Diesel. I bet you are in a smart car -- right?Must drive a Dodge Dart
I already gave evidence for this which you couldn't refute.
Thanks for making this easy for me.
You gave evidence that you dont have a clue what you are talking about concerning God and His son Jesus for sure.
Your welcome. it is easy.
An assertion without proof because you didn't even address the evidence I supplied, heretic.