your bald denials do not make it false
the text shows,
it was his will, and it was not the will of another imposed upon him,
that is free will
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Apollos exercised his free will in 1 Corinthians 16:12, refuting the claims that God predestines all and that there is no free will.
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the text shows,
it was his will, and it was not the will of another imposed upon him,
that is free will
Reformedguy
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Who sais his will is free or his choice was free? Not tge text that's for sure which means of course your....your bald denials do not make it false
the text shows,
it was his will, and it was not the will of another imposed upon him,
that is free will
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The textWho sais his will is free or his choice was free? Not tge text that's for sure which means of course your....
?QUESTION BEGGING ALERT ?
1 Corinthians 16:12 (ESV) — 12 Now concerning our brother Apollos, I strongly urged him to visit you with the other brothers, but it was not at all his will to come now. He will come when he has opportunity.
The phrase his will
as you were previously told but ignored
Reformedguy
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His will does not mean free will. Unless you can prove otherwise. GOOD LUCKThe text
1 Corinthians 16:12 (ESV) — 12 Now concerning our brother Apollos, I strongly urged him to visit you with the other brothers, but it was not at all his will to come now. He will come when he has opportunity.
The phrase his will
as you were previously told but ignored
The fact that it is his and not imposed shows it was freeHis will does not mean free will. Unless you can prove otherwise. GOOD LUCK
Reformedguy
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Fact? You have not shown this to be fair. Because your blindly assert it does not make it so.The fact that it is his and not imposed shows it was free
Er the text states it was his willFact? You have not shown this to be fair. Because your blindly assert it does not make it so.
The fact that it is his and not imposed shows it was free
Reformedguy
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His will does not equal free will or choice.Er the text states it was his will
The fact that it is his and not imposed shows it was free
Not necessarily. Another false premise
Sure it doesHis will does not equal free will or choice.
Not necessarily. Another false premise
Er the text states it was his will
The fact that it is his and not imposed shows it was free
Reformedguy
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Nope. Your presuming. A choice does not imply freedom.Sure it does
Er the text states it was his will
The fact that it is his and not imposed shows it was free
Which does not negate that it was determined. Divine determinism does not involve imposing anything.
It does when it is his choice and not one not imposed upon him.Nope. Your presuming. A choice does not imply freedom.
Which does not negate that it was determined. Divine determinism does not involve imposing anything.
Reformedguy
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No one said it's imposed upon him. Good one.It does when it is his choice and not one not imposed upon him.
Determinism is not imposition. FAIL
That is the pointNo one said it's imposed upon him. Good one.
Determinism is not imposition. FAIL
determinism is in fact an imposition of a particular option upon the decision process.
Reformedguy
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That is the point
determinism is in fact an imposition of a particular option upon the decision process.
No it's not.
No it's not and no proof has been offered
Determinsm does not involve imposition.
sorry you are in denial once againNo it's not.
No it's not and no proof has been offered
Determinsm does not involve imposition.
determinism is in fact an imposition of a particular option upon the decision process.
Reformedguy
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No it's not and no evidence has been offered to the contrary. Just bald denial ?sorry you are in denial once again
determinism is in fact an imposition of a particular option upon the decision process.
Sorry you do not know what determinism is thenNo it's not and no evidence has been offered to the contrary. Just bald denial ?
determinism is in fact an imposition of a particular option upon the decision process.
Reformedguy
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Nope. Simply saying it does not make it so.Sorry you do not know what determinism is then
determinism is in fact an imposition of a particular option upon the decision process.
PROVE IT
And you baldly denying it does not make it falseNope. Simply saying it does not make it so.
PROVE IT
How many options are possible if one is determined to do a particular thing?
Reformedguy
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Dude, your undercutting your own position. You have said you believe God is omniscient. How many options are available if your choice is foreknown and certain???And you baldly denying it does not make it false
How many options are possible if one is determined to do a particular thing?
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