Based on grammar and context, Jesus is the True God in 1 John 5:20

Newbirth said:
How am I confused? God is the creator and Jesus is the firstborn among many brethren
Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Colossians 1:18
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
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The firstborn OVER ALL creation, BECAUSE BY HIM were ALL things created.
Jesus has the preeminence in ALL things???
Wow! He must be God.
 
Newbirth said:
whar part of firstborn do you not understand?

God gave him that position...Col 1
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

No, he has a Father, God does not have a father...19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
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Firstborn, i.e. HEAD, RULER, of ALL creation???
Wow! He must be God.
 
Newbirth said:
therefore he is not God, in fact he said God id his father.

Yes the firstborn of all creation...what part of firstborn do you not understand?

and God is the head of Christ
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Yes God gave him that position

No, he is not God he is the son of God...I know that you cannot see that either...
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God is His Father???Wow! He must be God. John 5;18-19.
Head of ALL creation???Yep, He is God.
NO ONE is given the position of ALL things consisting BY Him.
 
Newbirth said:
Exodus 7:1
And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
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A god to Pharaoh ONLY temporarily???
Not a god over the world or universe???
Sorry, but Moses does NOT qualify as God.
Next.............................
 
Newbirth said:
you are funny, God is our father also, wow we must be God also

No , God is the head of Christ. I just posted the scripture...Can you not read? or are you blind?
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Jesus was given that position. You can cry as much as you want God is the head of Christ...So your God is subject to my God.
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God is NOT our LITERAL Father. Adopted sons of God do NOT count.
Try again.
BTW you EVADED Col. 1:15-18. Too hot for you to handle?????
 
JNelson said:
Do you agree with your trinitarian friend below that Jesus’ God is the trinity?
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Your response here is?

  - Jesus is LORD!

Let's not renew a conversation that was dead 1,000 posts ago by claiming a falsehood. Yes, it is about Jesus, he is the man who mediates between the covenant between God and men, and he is the intercessor for the saints. Here is what the verse says of Jesus: He searches He knows what the...
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Fred said:
You still never cleaned up this mess.

  - The King of Kings and Lord of Lords who dwells in unapproachable light

Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (KJV) Acts 2:22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by...
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Newbirth says 1 John 3:2 refers to Jesus.
https://forums.carm.org/threads/based-on-grammar-and-context-jesus-is-the-true-god-in-1-john-5-20.8931/page-3#post-651466

It's really nice to see you two clunked your heads together on this.
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For some reason you seem to think that is relevant to something.
 
Fred said:
Your response here is?

  - Jesus is LORD!

Let's not renew a conversation that was dead 1,000 posts ago by claiming a falsehood. Yes, it is about Jesus, he is the man who mediates between the covenant between God and men, and he is the intercessor for the saints. Here is what the verse says of Jesus: He searches He knows what the...
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Stop dodging. Is Jesus’ God the trinity like your trinitarian friend stated, yes or no?
 
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