Did Jesus bear Gods wrath and was He forsaken ?

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Sin nature passed down thru the father? why no verse stating this concept?
Yes, Jesus is unlike any of us because of who He is God. but He became a man, some want to modify that as if there is something like being a partial
You are making one point Since He did not sin it means He did not have a sin nature
My theology says He did not sin because he chose not to
It's a Theological Conclusion; these are the Theology Boards. We are either in Adam or in Christ. Adam is our first father; Christ is called the everlasting father. Our fathers are the head of our family. Levi paid Tithes while in Abraham's loins; he did partake of his father's good Deed, and this is an example of reaping from what was Sown...
 
Col 1:19 and 2:9. One describes pre ascension and the other post ascension.
Col 1:19 God's pleasure for al the fulness to dwell in Him
Col 2:9 ...fullness of deity dwells in bodily form
You have come up with ideas not stated about what these refer to, so you would have to demonstarte thru the context how these verses do what you say
 
Col 1:19 God's pleasure for al the fulness to dwell in Him
Col 2:9 ...fullness of deity dwells in bodily form
You have come up with ideas not stated about what these refer to, so you would have to demonstarte thru the context how these verses do what you say
All the Fulness of Deity dwells in Him (permanently) as per Colossians 1:19 and Colossians 2:9.
This is how the passage reads and how it is to be understood in its " CONTEXT " from Colossians 1:19;2:9 concerning Christ being fully God lacking nothing in His Divinity while on this earth and His Ascension and also His humanity which remains permanent. The Incarnation was not temporal but Christ remains forever God in the flesh. All the fulness of Deity remains bodily.

In Colossians 1:19 and Colossians 2:9 the Apostle Paul said, For in HIM (CHRIST) ALL of the “ fullness of deity dwells bodily. “Did Paul use the word fullness there to mean partially? NO as Jesus did not empty Himself of His Deity. Jesus Divinity is FULL, complete lacking in nothing. The ENTIRE Fullness of Deity dwells (is present) bodily in Jesus. In Colossians 1:19 it is describing His earthly ministry and Colossians 2:9 it is describing His Post Resurrection/Ascension Glory as God Incarnate.

Colossians 1:19-20
For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven
Colossians 2:9-10- For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

Colossians 3:1- Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.

Paul is talking in Colossians chapters 2-3 about the glorified resurrected Christ now seated at the right hand of God not the earthly Christ pre resurrection. This is a slam dunk that He is in a human glorified resurrection body and that He continues to have all the fullness of Deity dwelling bodily in the present.



Now read the Greek below on the present ongoing meaning of DWELLS . The bodily dwelling of Deity is permanent not temporary. The Incarnation was PERMANENT.

κατοικεῖ (katoikei)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 2730: To dwell in, settle in, be established in (permanently), inhabit. From kata and oikeo; to house permanently, i.e. Reside.


8.2 σωματικός, ή, όν; σωματικῶςa: (derivatives of σῶμαa ‘body,’ 8.1) pertaining to a physical body—‘bodily, physical, bodily form.’[1] Louw Nida


Expositor's Greek Testament
Colossians 2:9. in Him and in Him alone.—κατοικεῖ: “permanently dwells”. The reference is to the Exalted State, not only on account of the present, but of the context and Paul’s Christology generally.—πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τῆς θεότητος: “all the fulness of the Godhead”. πᾶν is emphatic, the whole fulness dwells in Christ.

“Dwelleth” is katoikei (κατοικει). Oikeō (Ὀικεω) means “to be at home.” Kata (Κατα), prefixed, means “down,” thus showing permanence. The compound verb was used of the permanent residents of a town as compared with the transient community. The verb is in the present tense, showing durative action. The translation reads: “Because in Him there is continuously and permanently at home all the fulness of the Godhead in bodily fashion.”


hope this helps !!!
 
It's a Theological Conclusion; these are the Theology Boards. We are either in Adam or in Christ. Adam is our first father; Christ is called the everlasting father. Our fathers are the head of our family. Levi paid Tithes while in Abraham's loins; he did partake of his father's good Deed, and this is an example of reaping from what was Sown...
You were responding to my question to show a verse that states the sin nature is passed down from the Father. Nothing you posted even addresses that question
 
All the Fulness of Deity dwells in Him (permanently) as per Colossians 1:19 and Colossians 2:9.
This is how the passage reads and how it is to be understood in its " CONTEXT " from Colossians 1:19;2:9 concerning Christ being fully God lacking nothing in His Divinity while on this earth and His Ascension and also His humanity which remains permanent. The Incarnation was not temporal but Christ remains forever God in the flesh. All the fulness of Deity remains bodily.

In Colossians 1:19 and Colossians 2:9 the Apostle Paul said, For in HIM (CHRIST) ALL of the “ fullness of deity dwells bodily. “Did Paul use the word fullness there to mean partially? NO as Jesus did not empty Himself of His Deity. Jesus Divinity is FULL, complete lacking in nothing. The ENTIRE Fullness of Deity dwells (is present) bodily in Jesus. In Colossians 1:19 it is describing His earthly ministry and Colossians 2:9 it is describing His Post Resurrection/Ascension Glory as God Incarnate.

Colossians 1:19-20
For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven
Colossians 2:9-10- For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

Colossians 3:1- Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.

Paul is talking in Colossians chapters 2-3 about the glorified resurrected Christ now seated at the right hand of God not the earthly Christ pre resurrection. This is a slam dunk that He is in a human glorified resurrection body and that He continues to have all the fullness of Deity dwelling bodily in the present.



Now read the Greek below on the present ongoing meaning of DWELLS . The bodily dwelling of Deity is permanent not temporary. The Incarnation was PERMANENT.

κατοικεῖ (katoikei)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 2730: To dwell in, settle in, be established in (permanently), inhabit. From kata and oikeo; to house permanently, i.e. Reside.


8.2 σωματικός, ή, όν; σωματικῶςa: (derivatives of σῶμαa ‘body,’ 8.1) pertaining to a physical body—‘bodily, physical, bodily form.’[1] Louw Nida


Expositor's Greek Testament
Colossians 2:9. in Him and in Him alone.—κατοικεῖ: “permanently dwells”. The reference is to the Exalted State, not only on account of the present, but of the context and Paul’s Christology generally.—πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τῆς θεότητος: “all the fulness of the Godhead”. πᾶν is emphatic, the whole fulness dwells in Christ.

“Dwelleth” is katoikei (κατοικει). Oikeō (Ὀικεω) means “to be at home.” Kata (Κατα), prefixed, means “down,” thus showing permanence. The compound verb was used of the permanent residents of a town as compared with the transient community. The verb is in the present tense, showing durative action. The translation reads: “Because in Him there is continuously and permanently at home all the fulness of the Godhead in bodily fashion.”


hope this helps !!!
There is a Greek word in colossians 2:9 somatikos - an adverb - translated NASB as "bodily form."
Youngs Literal says "Because in Him doth tabernacle all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."
Being an adverb it does not tell us "where" the fullness dwells, it tells us "how" the fullness dwells.
Stated in different words, it is the fullness that dwells in God. And the word somatikos tells us HOW the fullness dwells in God, not WHERE, because we already know where: the fullness dwells in God.
This is different than what you are saying the verse states that God dwells in a human body.
The verse is not telling us that God dwells in a human body, but that the "fullness" dwells somatikos in God.
 
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No we both lose, because you refuse to discuss what is actually the topic. We might both grow in knowledge if you were to respond honestly and attempt to address issues
yes that is how a dialogue should work which can be beneficial on both sides. If not for anything else to understand the other sides position. Amen
 
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