Does God have an inner conflict?

Dizerner said:
I think we can differentiate between God's will that Jesus be turned over and God's will that Jesus die for atonement from God's lack of will that it be accomplished through a sinful violation of his law
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I don't think you can, but have it, explain it.
 
Howie said:
Then sin is in the world in defiance of the will of God. That would make sin greater than God. How do you resolve that?
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Does God want you to watch pornography ?

Does God want you to sleep with your neighbors wife ?

Does God want you to get drunk ?

Does God want to to be addicted to heroine ?

Does God want you to be a rapist or murderer ?

Does God want you to molest children ?
 
civic said:
Does God want you to watch pornography ?

Does God want you to sleep with your neighbors wife ?

Does God want you to get drunk ?

Does God want to to be addicted to heroine ?

Does God want you to be a rapist or murderer ?

Does God want you to molest children ?
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You're dodging my question, @civic as usual.

Is it too hard for you?
 
Howie said:
You're dodging my question, @civic as usual.

Is it too hard for you?
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No that would be yourself, not me running away from the questions.

You are the one deflecting/projecting, not me.

The questions prove your view is wrong which is why you are running away from them like the plague.

hope this helps !!!
 
praise_yeshua said:
Sin, by definition, is defiance of the will of God.

Your ignorance is rooted in trying to use simple mathematics to explain a complex subject. It is like denying grass is green because you're looking at it after its already been through the cow......
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the box he lives in has him trapped within his own theology that he cannot escape. yet he doesn't see the dilemma or is in denial.

I decided a while ago I'm no longer living inside a theological box/system. There is truth outside of arminianism/calvinism. Neither one has a monopoly on the truth.

And anyone within those systematics that would claim they have the absolute truth are themselves deceived and trapped within its systematic. They only see the bible through that lens. Which means they have a "bias " when reading/studying the bible and cannot be " objective" but everything is subjective to their systematic.

Most people are not honest enough with themselves to admit the above is true.

Its exactly the same reasoning the unitarians have when reading the bible. Jesus cannot be God therefor the passage must have a different meaning. Both Arminians and Calvinists do the same thing with scripture as unitarians do with their systematic.
 
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civic said:
No that would be yourself, not me running away from the questions.

You are the one deflecting/projecting, not me.

The questions prove your view is wrong which is why you are running away from them like the plague.

hope this helps !!!
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You still haven't answered my question. I'll keep checking back to see if you ever do.
 
Simpletruther said:
The more "high" calvinist view is that God does not desire the salvation of all men.
They say this would create inner conflict with God which can't be the case.
However, they are still left with passages they mush admit describe a will of God that is in conflict than another will of God.
They call this God's descriptive and prescriptive wills.
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does God desire that all Believe? I think so
does God desire it so much that He facilitates to that end? no, because most don't believe
does God facilitate that some Believe? I think so

"this is the will/work (?) of God, that you believe in the one He has sent" John 6

does God desire All be saved? He only saves Believers
 
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