Evolution of the Organelle Assembly Line

[ferengi]

Prove that's the definition?! Now you're asking for proof of definitions?

So you dont know how to use a dictionary?

 

[CrowCross]

We do not KNOW how the organelle assembly line evolved. But despite it happening 4 billion years ago, scientists have a good idea of how it could have happened. And that is enough to destroy your claim that it cannot have evolved.

YAWN.

 

[rossum]

So you dont know how to use a dictionary?

Prove that you can use a dictionary, ferengi.

 

[Gus Bovona]

So you dont know how to use a dictionary?

I think that my ability to use a dictionary is about the same as your ability to use a dictionary.

However, you shouldn't have to have to use a dictionary. My intended use of the word is well within common usage in English.

 

[ferengi]

I think that my ability to use a dictionary is about the same as your ability to use a dictionary.

Unsupported as the rest of your claims.

 

[ferengi]

Prove that you can use a dictionary, ferengi.

Prove your claim ros -
rossum said: Information is copied from the environment into DNA by random mutation and natural selection.

 

[rossum]

Prove your claim ros -
rossum said: Information is copied from the environment into DNA by random mutation and natural selection.

Use your dictionary to look up "random mutation". Then use your dictionary to look up "natural selection". If you still have a problem, then read a good biology textbook.

 

[ferengi]

Use your dictionary to look up "random mutation". Then use your dictionary to look up "natural selection". If you still have a problem, then read a good biology textbook.

Prove your claim ros -
rossum said: Information is copied from the environment into DNA by random mutation and natural selection.

 

[rossum]

Prove your claim ros -
rossum said: Information is copied from the environment into DNA by random mutation and natural selection.

So, you have no interest in looking up words in the dictionary as I suggested.

Colour me unsurprised.

 

[ferengi]

So, you have no interest in looking up words in the dictionary as I suggested.

Prove your claim ros -
rossum said: Information is copied from the environment into DNA by random mutation and natural selection.

 

[Gus Bovona]

Unsupported as the rest of your claims.

I already gave an expansion/clarification of what I meant by "substantive" in a post you even quoted but you ignored it as an expansion/clarification of what I meant. Now you're on about whether I can support what I say "substantive" means,

Prove thats the definition - atheoevos making stuff up again.

as if the issue of whether "addressing the question" means "substantive" even matters. Rossum's reply addressed your question, and all you can do is to subvert the actual issue and ignore whether what he said makes his case or not.

 

[The Pixie]

YAWN.

I think this neatly sums up the ID approach. It is all shouting, bluster and posing at first, but then their ridiculous claims are thoroughly trashed, they get bored and wander off.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[docphin5]

Present this allege evidence.

It is available in all the biology textbooks at every school in the world. The research underlying it is published on PubMed. There is no excuse unless you are living in a cave.

 

[ferengi]

I think this neatly sums up the ID approach. It is all shouting, bluster and posing at first, but then their ridiculous claims are thoroughly trashed, they get bored and wander off.

Talk about projecting .

 

[ferengi]

I already gave an expansion/clarification of what I meant by "substantive"

I dont care about your made up non-sense.

Rossum's reply addressed your question,

Unsupported assertion.

 

[ferengi]

It is available in all the biology textbooks at every school in the world.

If thats true what can't you present any evidence?

 

[ferengi]

The sequence is encoded in DNA

How did evo create DNA? How did evo create the information stored in the DNA to create the protein? How did evo create the digital code that is used to encode the information stored in DNA?

 

[Gus Bovona]

I dont care about your made up non-sense.

Unsupported assertion.

If you're willing to agree to discuss the topic of whether Rossum's post was on point to your question in an intellectually honest way, and agree to some general principles as to what an intellectually honest discussion looks like, I'd be happy to engage with you on that.

 

[ferengi]

in an intellectually honest way

When have you ever been?
Can you prove ros ever proved her claim true?

 

[Gus Bovona]

When have you ever been?
Can you prove ros ever proved her claim true?

Until you affirmatively say that you want to have an intellectually honest conversation, including what that might look like, I won't be responding to you.