Would the wording second member of the Trinity be more pleasing to you?Where does the scripture say, second member of a Godhead?
Would the wording second member of the Trinity be more pleasing to you?Where does the scripture say, second member of a Godhead?
OBJECTOR: Well, if the Catholic Church really teaches salvation by grace, that’s wonderful. But it’s hard for me to believe because Catholics place so much emphasis on doing good works. Paul’s letters stress again and again that salvation comes through faith alone. In addition to Galatians 2:15–16,consider Romans 4:2: “For if Abraham was justified by works,he has something to boast about,but not before God.” Then three verses later,in 4:5, Paul puts it another way:“And to one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness.”
CATHOLIC:We don’t disagree about the primary role that faith plays. Following Paul,the Catholic Church teaches that justification comes by faith. Only it says that it doesn’t come through faith alone. If you look carefully at Paul’s writings, you will notice that he never says that our righteousness comes from faith alone—only that it comes from faith apart from works.
Just tell us: What works?
and here we have another poster :I already did in the previous post. And the purpose of works isn’t for Gods benefit it’s for our benefit.
and here we have another poster :
"Its NOT faith alone; but I can't tell what works you must do"
Where does the scripture say "second member of the Trinity?" Are we not discussing scripture here?Would the wording second member of the Trinity be more pleasing to you?
Don't you know what good works are?and here we have another poster :
"Its NOT faith alone; but I can't tell what works you must do"
Good works also make others glorify God.I already did in the previous post. And the purpose of works isn’t for Gods benefit it’s for our benefit.
It doesn’t mention the exact phrase in either case. What’s your point?Where does the scripture say "second member of the Trinity?" Are we not discussing scripture here?
Correct.Good works also make others glorify God.
Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
”then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground” (Gen 2:7)Where in scripture is that teaching?
…or your mind is closed, kinda like,You are making up your own doctrine.
Two people belonging to the same community, in this case, the “party of Christ”, may have sharp disagreements on a specific matter, in this case whether Gentile converts should Judaize or not, —again, whether Gentile converts are obligated to the works commanded by the Mosaic Law, —to the point of becoming estranged but then over time one of the people can soften their position (or both) and the relationship is restored. It happens in life all the time, especially in families. That is what I perceive happened in the natural development of Christianity and which scholars have documented.You just posted this
docphin5 said:
These are two elephants (James and Paul) in combat with each other over doctrine, not two friends explaining the same doctrine in different ways.
have you already forgotten what you posted?
Did anyone of them mention two natures?
Seems like you are promoting division.
seem like Peter is promoting unity
yep :Don't you know what good works are?
It means....you can't earn salvation. There's more but that's a start.
yep :works of the law and works of righteousness
your claim that works are required
Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Titus 3:5 He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,
What else is there?
What are the works you think save?
Eph 2:8,9 makes it clear that Salvation IS NOT through "Works", but by FAITH (gifted by God since humans can't generate Biblical FAITH on their own).How do you define "Faith Alone"?
Does faith alone mean "lawlessness" where we completely disregard the commandments?
Again; what works?We are saved by grace. We are not saved by works neither are we saved by our faith alone.
nope : never hasHow do you define "Faith Alone"?
Does faith alone mean "lawlessness" where we completely disregard the commandments?
I already told you we are not saved by any works.Again; what works? They cannot be works if the law
and it cannot be work if righteousness: What else is there?