How can there be a loving God?

[Whatsisface]

It takes circular reasoning to believe the truth is circular.

Because what you said was circular, we can't know if what you said is true.

If you believe righteousness is hateful, then this isn't surprising.

I don't think that.

 

[Whatsisface]

Depends on how one defines, "incredibly hateful things."

How do you define that?

Much as the plain reading of the phrase.

 

[5wize]

So an obscure Christian concept gave you, an atheist, faith in the competence of a God you don't believe exists? You would be better off going with stupidity.

It’s not obscure. It's the very heart of why Christians trust the Bible is the word of god. Seriously, stick with C.S. Lewis, the Deepak Chopra of Christianity. You don’t know enough serious concepts of your own religion to have any credibility in these conversations.

 

[mikeT]

God cursed the earth because of Adam's sin.

Supposedly.

I'm pretty certain Dawkin's knows that.

I'm even more certain Dawkins has heard the idea, and dismissed it for the farce it is.

The only love in this universe is the infrequent variety its living inhabitants have for each other.

 

[5wize]

You believe it's nasty to punish lawbreaking? ?

That’s not punishment. Punishment is meant to correct. What your god did was complete and irreversible retribution and destruction.

 

[Howie]

I'm sure he's heard the idea, but like me can't see how any loving God would act so and cause such suffering as his quote references.

Perhaps the fact you don't believe God exists accounts for your blindness in that area.

Hence the OP, how can there be a loving God?

What is the theme of the Christian Scripture; do you know?

 

[Howie]

That’s not punishment. Punishment is meant to correct.

You ought to buy a dictionary, pal, and use it before saying foolish things.

What your god did was complete and irreversible retribution and destruction.

That's why He'll be creating everything anew in the future.

 

[5wize]

What is the theme of the Christian Scripture; do you know?

Your god’s eventual destruction of his now useless world.... of such wonderful design BTW.... LOL!!!!!

 

[Howie]

Much as the plain reading of the phrase.

I define as scripture defines it: UNBELIEF..

 

[Whatsisface]

Perhaps the fact you don't believe God exists accounts for your blindness in that area.

I don't think so, and the above in no way shows I am blind.

What is the theme of the Christian Scripture; do you know?

Christ died on the cross for our sins in order for us to be saved? Is that what you're after?

 

[5wize]

You ought to buy a dictionary, pal, and use it before saying foolish things.

You ought to learn a bit more about your own religion and how inhumane it is.

 

[Howie]

Supposedly.

Actually. Read the Scripture.You may disagree with Scripture, but that iscwhat says.

I'm even more certain Dawkins has heard the idea, and dismissed it for the farce it is.

Neither you nor Dawkins has ever proven it's a farce.

If you ever do, let me know. We'll discuss it further then.

The only love in this universe is the infrequent variety its living inhabitants have for each other.

And certain you are among them.

 

[Whatsisface]

I define as scripture defines it: UNBELIEF..

Oh, ok. Why though? It doesn't seem related to Steve's use of the Phrase "incredible hateful things".

 

[Howie]

I don't think so, and the above in no way shows I am blind.

Christianity disagrees with you.

Christ died on the cross for our sins in order for us to be saved? Is that what you're after?

Yes, or as Scroggie titles it, The Unfolding Drama of Remption, which is the Triune God's inestimable act of love toward His enemies.

So much for your faulty OP.

 

[Howie]

Your god’s eventual destruction of his now useless world.... of such wonderful design BTW.... LOL!!!!!

LOL

 

[Howie]

You ought to learn a bit more about your own religion and how inhumane it is.

Your secularism is doing a bangup job regarding inhumane religion. ?

 

[5wize]

Your secularism is doing a bangup job regarding inhumane religion. ?

Like trying to help a world your god abandoned? You're damn right we’re doing a bang-up job in comparison.

 

[Whatsisface]

Christianity disagrees with you.

Just saying so doesn't show I'm blind to anything.

Yes, or as Scroggie titles it, The Unfolding Drama of Remption, which is the Triune God's inestimable act of love toward His enemies.

So much for your faulty OP.

This doesn't deal with the OP, because it doesn't explain why a loving God would set things up so that animals suffer terribly.

 

[Howie]

Oh, ok. Why though?

It's the only hateful thing in scripture that heralds your impend8ng doom so clearly (Jn 3:18).

It is hateful rejection of Christ.

It doesn't seem related to Steve's use of the Phrase "incredible hateful things".

I'm not Steve, and I don't quote Steve.

Steve and I hold many different theological positions.

 

[Howie]

Like trying to help a world your god abandoned?

straw man. Bible God is active 8n the world.

You're damn right we’re doing a bang-up job in comparison.

LOL