Jesus’s God
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johnny guitar
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Another unbounded STRAWMAN.
More like the Achille’s heel of your doctrine.
Did Jesus Christ worship God, or not?
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johnny guitar
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I'm certain He did.
Why are you so obsessed with who Jesus worshipped????
Worry about your condition.
Did he worship a different God than you do? Was the God he worshipped “triune?”
Why shouldn’t a follower of Christ be concerned about what God Christ worshipped? Are we not supposed to worship that same God? You won’t admit that he didn’t worship a triune god as you do….for obvious reasons.
I’m not the polytheist here.
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Runningman
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So Jesus worshipped God. Did Jesus worship himself?
Tanachreader
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Irreverant like Shroom, fear God.
Why would He think it not robbery to be equal with God?
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
One trick pony.
Why do you trinitarians fear telling us what God Jesus worshipped?
Why do you trinitarians fear telling us if the God Jesus worshipped was triune like the god you worship?
Why do you trinitarians fear telling us if the hypostatic MAN Jesus worshipped the hypostatic GOD Jesus?
Why do you trinitarians fear telling us what God Jesus cried out to when he was hanging on the cross as the obedient servant that he emptied himself to be?
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Runningman
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If Jesus worshipped God but he doesn't worship himself (he never worshipped himself) then he isn't God.
Keep throwing things hoping something sticks. Philippians 2:5-11 disproves the trinity. Case in point, Jesus doesn't get the glory when he's bowed to. Only God does.
Philippians 2
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
johnny guitar
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Whenever The Son is worshipped, as He is in Phil. 2:10-11, The Father is glorified.
johnny guitar
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Believers in Jesus Christ worship The Triune God.
Bob Carabbio
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Tanachreader
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The Father gives honor and glory to the Son, and in turn, the Son glorifies the Father through His actions and sacrifice.
This is beautifully encapsulated in the Gospel of John, where Jesus prays to the Father saying, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you” (John 17:1)
Bob Carabbio
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What fear?? Jesus worshiped God the Father (duh).
What Fear?? Jesus - as one of the persons of the Trinity was the temporary physical manifestation of the WORD, who was God, so the "Trinity" in the OLD testament was "God the Father", "God the Word", and "God the Holy Spirit". Jesus was temporarily limited by His HUMANITY so the God HE worshiped consisted of the other two persons.
What Fear?? Just word games. Jesus was a normal HUMAN MAN with all the blindnesses, human nature, and limitations WE have. He did nothing of Himself, but always did that which he saw Father doing AFTER He was joined by the Holy Spirit at John's baptism. NATURALLY the HUMAN MAN, Jesus, worshiped the Spiritual GOD the Father.
What fear?? It's likely that on the cross, as Jesus BECAME SIN, the Holy Spirit departed from him, isolating Him from God.
Of course the FALLACY in all this is that YOU Have no real concept of the totality of God - I don't - nobody does. There will come a time when we know even as we are known. in the present, however, we only see through the glass darkly, but in our over-inflated perception of our selves, we try to quantify, that which we have no real understanding of.
It's called "Theology"
Tanachreader
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Why would Jesus think it not robbery to be equal with God?
Tanachreader
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Why would Jesus think it not robbery to be equal with God?
That’s not what I asked you. Do you have problems comprehending what’s asked of you?
And anyone can believe anything about a god, so obvious in your posts. But It is another matter when God Himself manifests Himself in you as He did in Jesus in Matt 3:16 and open up in you who He is and all of His heaven in you as well as he did Jesus. But to you Matt 3:16 is a lie isn't it and Jesus didnt need God to reveal who He is, and the exact reason that you only have a bailiff about a god with noting tangible that you can hold onto. You are not of faith, you are of speculation as so many here are.
So you’re saying Jesus made up a part of the God he worshipped?
Read that S L O W L Y and try to comprehend what it’s actually saying.
What did he mean by “robbery?”
What did he mean by “equal?”