Nondenom40
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Not a shred of this is true. Total made up fabricated nonsense. All to elevate a creature above the creator. Repent!
Mother Mary
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PeanutGallery
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What Jesus said is recorded in scripture; where is it recorded that Mary is our mother, let alone Mother of God?
dingoling.
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At the time Jesus gave the sermon on the mount it wasn't in scripture.
Scripture alone isn't the final/sole authority. That is a man made doctrine that itself is not recorded in scripture.
RayneBeau
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So true Bonnie!
Ding is unaware that many of the RCC's dogmas about Mary are man-made and find NO support in Scripture.
What's more is that the RCC has distorted not only our understanding of Many but of the whole doctrine of redemption. These teachings do absolutely nothing to compliment Mary, and her faith in God. When I was a Roman Catholic, the Mary I was indoctrinated to believe in, beginning in 1st grade, was to believe in a person that had been reinvented by Roman Catholic dogma. Mary was not chosen because she was the best or was morally superior; she was chosen because God can choose whomsoever He desires. There was nothing about Mary that compelled God to choose her.
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Bonnie
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Jesus didn't say the HS would guide us into believing and practicing man-made doctrines and practices that go against Scripture.
Bonnie
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"In vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrine the precepts of men" Jesus quoted Isaiah, to lambast the Pharisees for putting man-made doctrines ahead of what is actually in Scripture. Which is what the RCC has done for hundreds of years. And still does.
PeanutGallery
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The inspired apostle uses a similar argument, but switches the genders.
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! (Rom. 5:15)
And again.
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! (Rom. 5:17)
And again.
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. (Rom. 5:19)
Because unlike you, Paul looks to Christ rather than to fallen man for the redemption of mankind.
romishpopishorganist
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Why then was the Incarnation of God linked to a woman's "yes?" It was through the Incarnation that God defeated Satan. No Incarnation, no cross.
Of course God is present in times trouble; but we are a family of believers. In times of trouble our family is there for us, including the head of our family, God.
romishpopishorganist
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Correct; but none of that happened in isolation.
In other words---Mary's "yes" is what enabled all of what you mentioned above.
She was humble and obedient, and I think the reason for the silence of Scripture in many details about her would be so that people would not elevate her to the point of praying to her.
Are you saying that God was "enabled" by Mary's unrecorded "yes"?
dingoling.
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Peter tells to humble ourselves under the mighty hand of God and he will exalt in due time. Like her Son, Mary doesn't seem to have received any accolades here on earth and wasn't highly exalted until after she ascended into heaven.
See post 4.
What "accolades" do you mean that Mary deserved? It is quite remarkable how you write about her as the Scriptures do about Christ.
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name. (Phil. 2:9)
PeanutGallery
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Unlike her Son, scripture speaks nothing of Mary's exaltation and ascension into heaven.
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
dingoling.
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I have heard that Mary took the place Satan held before he rebelled.
Yep scripture is clear it is by one man sin entered the world. So God does not see it the same as the RCC, why is that? The Greek word is for man and not mankind.
Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
Rom 5:15
ut the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
So putting Mary into the scene is just going against God. By the way how many women were in the garden of Eden?
And RCs wonder why we think they do not understand the book of Romans.
Oh garbage.
I do not see the first paragraph as OK at all because of what is posted in Roms 5. But about the rest you are spot on.