The God of Jesus

[Tanachreader]

What do YOU say @johnny guitar …

Is the Trinity the God of Jesus?

@Tanachreader I think you are saying YES but please confirm.

Do you think that makes any sense?

 

[Our Lord's God]

Actually olg God the Father first spoke to me almost 50 years ago and still does.

If God the Father spoke to you, you would know better, and you also wouldn't be so incredibly dishonest concerning Scriptural facts.

Your own fruits betrayed you.

John 14:23
You are in for a terrible end.

You still have a God which Jesus does not - another God.

And that makes you an idolater.

 

[johnny guitar]

That's right, but that's not the point.

It IS the point. I am a sinner and NOT The Son of God.
Jesus is sinless AND The Son of God.

 

[johnny guitar]

He sure does. And you have a God which he does not - another God.

Another olg strawman.

 

[shroom]

It IS the point. I am a sinner and NOT The Son of God.
Jesus is sinless AND The Son of God.

The point is that you have a different God than Jesus Christ has.

 

[johnny guitar]

The point is that you have a different God than Jesus Christ has.

STRAWMAN.
The Son is the SAME God as The Father.

 

[shroom]

STRAWMAN.

It's not a strawman, it's a fact.

The Son is the SAME God as The Father.

That's false. Jesus said his Father is "the only true God." Paul said that "for us there is but one God, the Father."

 

[johnny guitar]

It's not a strawman, it's a fact.


That's false. Jesus said his Father is "the only true God." Paul said that "for us there is but one God, the Father."

And ONE Lord, who is God.

 

[shroom]

And ONE Lord, who is God.

You're repeating what you believe. You aren't saying the truth.

 

[Tanachreader]

You're repeating what you believe. You aren't saying the truth.

You twist and deny the truth.

Jesus Claimed to Be God: In John 10:30, Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one.” The Jews understood this statement as a claim to deity, and they tried to stone Him for it. Similarly, in John 8:58, Jesus referred to Himself as “I am,” echoing God’s self-revelation in Exodus 3:14.

His Followers Acknowledged His Deity: John 1:1 and 1:14 describe Jesus as the Word who was God and became flesh. Thomas, one of Jesus’ disciples, addressed Him as “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Titus 2:13 also encourages believers to wait for “our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.”Worship Given to Jesus: In several instances, people worshiped Jesus (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). If Jesus were not God, He would have corrected them, as the angel did in Revelation 19:10.The Reason for Jesus’ Deity:
The most crucial reason Jesus must be God is that only God could pay the infinite penalty required for sin. His death and resurrection demonstrate victory over sin and death (1 John 2:2; 2 Corinthians 5:21).

 

[Lilel01]

Did Jesus ever tell his disciples that he was God? No, right?
Then why did someone invent something that he never said?
Who was really the inventor of that lie?

 

[johnny guitar]

Did Jesus ever tell his disciples that he was God? No, right?
Then why did someone invent something that he never said?
Who was really the inventor of that lie?

He made numerous claims to be God.

 

[shroom]

You twist and deny the truth.

Jesus Claimed to Be God:

Not once, ever.

In John 10:30, Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one.”

They are one in the same way we are to be one.

The Jews understood this statement as a claim to deity,

No they didn't.

and they tried to stone Him for it.

They stoned him for claiming to be the Messiah.

Similarly, in John 8:58, Jesus referred to Himself as “I am,” echoing God’s self-revelation in Exodus 3:14.

John 8:58 is not related to Exo 3:14.

The formerly blind man said "I AM" in John 9:9. Was he claiming to be God too?

His Followers Acknowledged His Deity: John 1:1 and 1:14 describe Jesus as the Word who was God and became flesh.

Learn what logos means.

Thomas, one of Jesus’ disciples, addressed Him as “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28).

He knew Jesus represented God.

Titus 2:13 also encourages believers to wait for “our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.”

Two entities: God, and out savior Jesus Christ.

Worship Given to Jesus: In several instances, people worshiped Jesus (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). If Jesus were not God, He would have corrected them, as the angel did in Revelation 19:10.

Of course we are to worship Jesus, but not as God.

The Reason for Jesus’ Deity:
The most crucial reason Jesus must be God is that only God could pay the infinite penalty required for sin.

That's simply false. It took a sinless "lamb from the flock." Jesus Christ was a sinless man. He still is.

His death and resurrection demonstrate victory over sin and death (1 John 2:2; 2 Corinthians 5:21).

That's true. God raised him from the dead. Thank God!

 

[shroom]

He made numerous claims to be God.

Where?

You're always making assertions, johnny, but you never back them up.

 

[johnny guitar]

Not once, ever.


They are one in the same way we are to be one.


No they didn't.


They stoned him for claiming to be the Messiah.


John 8:58 is not related to Exo 3:14.

The formerly blind man said "I AM" in John 9:9. Was he claiming to be God too?


Learn what logos means.


He knew Jesus represented God.


Two entities: God, and out savior Jesus Christ.


Of course we are to worship Jesus, but not as God.


That's simply false. It took a sinless "lamb from the flock." Jesus Christ was a sinless man. He still is.


That's true. God raised him from the dead. Thank God!

NO believer is or EVER can be one with The Father as The Son is in John 10:30.

 

[DoctrinesofGraceBapt]

Is there any other God but the God of Jesus?

Jesus is the same God as his God.

 

[Tanachreader]

Not once, ever.


They are one in the same way we are to be one.


No they didn't.


They stoned him for claiming to be the Messiah.


John 8:58 is not related to Exo 3:14.

The formerly blind man said "I AM" in John 9:9. Was he claiming to be God too?


Learn what logos means.


He knew Jesus represented God.


Two entities: God, and out savior Jesus Christ.


Of course we are to worship Jesus, but not as God.


That's simply false. It took a sinless "lamb from the flock." Jesus Christ was a sinless man. He still is.


That's true. God raised him from the dead. Thank God!

Shroom, Jesus is Immanuel to us but not you.
As Thomas said.

 

[DoctrinesofGraceBapt]

@Unbound68 Typical response from one who is unable to respond with words.

 

[shroom]

Jesus is the same God as his God.

I -rarely- leave a guffawing emoji, but this post deserves one.

 

[shroom]

Shroom, Jesus is Immanuel to us but not you.
As Thomas said.

Jesus Christ is Immanuel to me, TR.