What is of most importance?

[Runningman]

According to Yeshua, what is of most importance is that the Lord our God is one.

Mark 12​

29Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One.​

There is nothing about God being 2 or 3 mentioned here, but rather 1. If God being 2 or 3 was of any importance then Yeshua would have said so. With this important information in mind, Yeshua confirmed that those who wisely know this are not far from the kingdom of God.

Mark 12​

34When Jesus saw that the man had answered wisely, He said, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”​

So who is the One Lord and God? According to Yeshua, Paul, and others the one God is the Father.

John 17​

3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God...​

​

Ephesians 4​

6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.​

​

1 Corinthians 8​

6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist.​

Does the one God known as the Father have a name?

Deuteronomy 4​

35You were shown these things so that you would know that the LORD is God; there is no other besides Him.​

39Know therefore this day and take to heart that the LORD is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other.​

According to the Old Testament, the one and only true God we are to love with with all of heart and soul is transliterated into Hebrews as the Tetragrammaton and often simply represented as a capitalized "LORD" in English Bible translations under the belief it isn't proper to spell out God's personal name.

With this information being of most importance, it is tied directly to salvation. Therefore, the Trinity and Binity are false and the Unitarian position accurately reflects the Biblical perspective of God, Yeshua, all of the prophets, and the disciples.

Anywhere God is mentioned, it's a reference to the One God, the Lord and Father of Yeshua and Christians alike.

1 Timothy 2​

5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus...​

​

John 20​

17‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’ ”​

 

[Lastdaysbeliever]

Unitarianism: the continuation of the Arian heresy.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live

Colossians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 10:30 I and the Father are one

Matthew 1:23 The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Philippians 2:5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross!

 

[Runningman]

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live

Colossians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 10:30 I and the Father are one

Matthew 1:23 The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Philippians 2:5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross!

The verses you supplied can be understood in a way that aligns with the One and only true God being the Father and the distinctiveness of Yeshua as a human being, a prophet, and the Messiah:

John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."​

The "Word" refers to the divine wisdom or plan of God. This verse can be understood to emphasize the importance of God's wisdom in the creation and purpose of the world, rather than implying the preexistence of Yeshua as the Word.

1 Corinthians 8:6: "yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."​

This verse highlights the distinction between God the Father and Yeshua as the Lord or Messiah.

Colossians 2:9: "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."​

This verse can be understood to mean that God's divine attributes were manifested in Yeshua, who acted as a representative of God's authority and power on Earth. Furthermore, the fullness of God dwelling in Yeshua isn't something unique to him, this is something that Paul said could apply to anyone in Eph. 3:19.

Isaiah 9:6: "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."​

This verse can be seen as a prophetic statement about the exalted position and role of the future Messiah, without necessarily implying that the Messiah is God himself. The titles given to the Messiah reflect his authority and the divine attributes bestowed upon him by God. Furthermore, there are numerous translation issues with this verse.

John 1:14: "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."​

This verse can be understood to express the belief that God's wisdom or plan was uniquely embodied in Yeshua, who, as the Messiah, demonstrated God's grace and truth to humanity.

John 10:30: "I and the Father are one."​

This verse can be interpreted to mean that Yeshua and the Father are united in purpose and mission, rather than implying that they are ontologically one and the same.

Matthew 1:23: "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us").​

The name Immanuel signifies that God's presence and favor would be with the people through the Messiah. It does not mean that the Messiah is God himself. Isaiah 7:14-15 says Immanuel is a human who needed time to learn the difference between good and evil. God's nature does not require Him to need time to learn the difference between good and evil.

Matthew 28:19: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."​

This verse can be seen as a liturgical formula emphasizing the roles of the Father, Yeshua as the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit in the disciples' mission. Since the Father is recognized by all in the Bible as the one and only true God, then this verse doesn’t support Trinitarianism.

Colossians 1:15-17: These verses emphasize the exalted position of Yeshua as the firstborn of God’s creation. These verses mean that Yeshua was uniquely chosen and exalted by God, rather than equating him with the one God.

Philippians 2:5-8: These verses speak of Yeshua’s humility and obedience to God, even to the point of death. This speaks to Yeshua’s exemplary behavior and his willingness to fulfill God's plan, rather than as evidence of his deity, as proven by Yeshua being in the “form” (a display of outward appearance) of God.

 

[johnny guitar]

According to Yeshua, what is of most importance is that the Lord our God is one.

Mark 12​

29Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One.​

There is nothing about God being 2 or 3 mentioned here, but rather 1. If God being 2 or 3 was of any importance then Yeshua would have said so. With this important information in mind, Yeshua confirmed that those who wisely know this are not far from the kingdom of God.

Mark 12​

34When Jesus saw that the man had answered wisely, He said, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”​

So who is the One Lord and God? According to Yeshua, Paul, and others the one God is the Father.

John 17​

3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God...​

​

Ephesians 4​

6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.​

​

1 Corinthians 8​

6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist.​

Does the one God known as the Father have a name?

Deuteronomy 4​

35You were shown these things so that you would know that the LORD is God; there is no other besides Him.​

39Know therefore this day and take to heart that the LORD is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other.​

According to the Old Testament, the one and only true God we are to love with with all of heart and soul is transliterated into Hebrews as the Tetragrammaton and often simply represented as a capitalized "LORD" in English Bible translations under the belief it isn't proper to spell out God's personal name.

With this information being of most importance, it is tied directly to salvation. Therefore, the Trinity and Binity are false and the Unitarian position accurately reflects the Biblical perspective of God, Yeshua, all of the prophets, and the disciples.

Anywhere God is mentioned, it's a reference to the One God, the Lord and Father of Yeshua and Christians alike.

1 Timothy 2​

5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus...​

​

John 20​

17‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’ ”​

Jesus being The ONE Lord, The Lord of ALL, has NO Lord.

 

[shroom]

Jesus being The ONE Lord, The Lord of ALL, has NO Lord.

But he does have a God... John 20:17

 

[johnny guitar]

But he does have a God... John 20:17

Yes, Jesus The MAN has a God, as ALL men do.
And..............................

 

[shroom]

Yes, Jesus The MAN has a God, as ALL men do.

Exactly.

 

[Stephen]

Unitarianism: the continuation of the Arian heresy.

Trinitarianism . . . The complete inability to address anything in the OP.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Oh no. A oneness Pentecostal must be posting as this reading is straight up Sabellianism. Did you even read the verse?

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live

This verse is Unitarianism in a nutshell. For us there is one God. And also there is somebody who is not the one God that is important also, he's the one lord, he is the Christ.

I have to ask, did you even read the verse?

Colossians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

In Christ is the deity. Christ isn't the deity. What it actually says is that the deity was living in Christ. PS. You are also supposed to be a temple of the most High God and where the deity lives.

I have to ask, did you even read the verse?

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Hmmm....... And? Since nobody in the New Testament said Jesus fulfilled this verse, I'm left to wonder what fantasies you ascribe to it.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

The word became flesh. Amen. The person the word became is named Jesus and is the son of God. Straight up unitarian teaching. Sons are not their fathers, and fathers are not their sons.

John 10:30 I and the Father are one

And? The apostles were "one" in the same way Jesus and his father were one (John 17:22). Do you have some sort of fantasy regarding this verse?

Matthew 1:23 The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

Joseph named this child . . . drum roll please .... "Jesus" not "Immanuel".

I have to ask, did you miss the entire new testament where the name of our Lord and Savior is repeated over and over and it is "Jesus", not "Immanuel?

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

What fantasies do you ascribe to this verse?

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

The first verse straight up says that Jesus is a creation, the image of God. See Gen 1 for more information on the relationship to the image of God to God.

I have to ask, did you even read the passage?

Philippians 2:5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross!

So according to you Jesus is equal to God according to this verse. Which of course means that Jesus is not God.

Of course Paul's conclusion directly contradicts the fantasy of the translators here,

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place​

and gave him the name that is above every name,​

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,​

in heaven and on earth and under the earth,​

11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,​

to the glory of God the Father.​

It appears that Unitarians agree entirely with Paul's conclusion, that God elevated Jesus and gave Jesus a name above every name (rather than Mary and Joseph), whereas Trinitarians think Jesus was equal to God in his mortal state and the name Jesus is the name that is above every name.



(I wonder if any part of the OP will be addressed in this thread).

 

[johnny guitar]

The verses you supplied can be understood in a way that aligns with the One and only true God being the Father and the distinctiveness of Yeshua as a human being, a prophet, and the Messiah:

John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."​

The "Word" refers to the divine wisdom or plan of God. This verse can be understood to emphasize the importance of God's wisdom in the creation and purpose of the world, rather than implying the preexistence of Yeshua as the Word.

1 Corinthians 8:6: "yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."​

This verse highlights the distinction between God the Father and Yeshua as the Lord or Messiah.

Colossians 2:9: "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."​

This verse can be understood to mean that God's divine attributes were manifested in Yeshua, who acted as a representative of God's authority and power on Earth. Furthermore, the fullness of God dwelling in Yeshua isn't something unique to him, this is something that Paul said could apply to anyone in Eph. 3:19.

Isaiah 9:6: "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."​

This verse can be seen as a prophetic statement about the exalted position and role of the future Messiah, without necessarily implying that the Messiah is God himself. The titles given to the Messiah reflect his authority and the divine attributes bestowed upon him by God. Furthermore, there are numerous translation issues with this verse.

John 1:14: "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."​

This verse can be understood to express the belief that God's wisdom or plan was uniquely embodied in Yeshua, who, as the Messiah, demonstrated God's grace and truth to humanity.

John 10:30: "I and the Father are one."​

This verse can be interpreted to mean that Yeshua and the Father are united in purpose and mission, rather than implying that they are ontologically one and the same.

Matthew 1:23: "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us").​

The name Immanuel signifies that God's presence and favor would be with the people through the Messiah. It does not mean that the Messiah is God himself. Isaiah 7:14-15 says Immanuel is a human who needed time to learn the difference between good and evil. God's nature does not require Him to need time to learn the difference between good and evil.

Matthew 28:19: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."​

This verse can be seen as a liturgical formula emphasizing the roles of the Father, Yeshua as the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit in the disciples' mission. Since the Father is recognized by all in the Bible as the one and only true God, then this verse doesn’t support Trinitarianism.

Colossians 1:15-17: These verses emphasize the exalted position of Yeshua as the firstborn of God’s creation. These verses mean that Yeshua was uniquely chosen and exalted by God, rather than equating him with the one God.

Philippians 2:5-8: These verses speak of Yeshua’s humility and obedience to God, even to the point of death. This speaks to Yeshua’s exemplary behavior and his willingness to fulfill God's plan, rather than as evidence of his deity, as proven by Yeshua being in the “form” (a display of outward appearance) of God.

Only ONE Lord Who is God.
And the fullness of The Godhead dwells in ONE Person BODILY: Jesus Christ.

 

[johnny guitar]

Trinitarianism . . . The complete inability to address anything in the OP.



Oh no. A oneness Pentecostal must be posting as this reading is straight up Sabellianism. Did you even read the verse?



This verse is Unitarianism in a nutshell. For us there is one God. And also there is somebody who is not the one God that is important also, he's the one lord, he is the Christ.

I have to ask, did you even read the verse?




In Christ is the deity. Christ isn't the deity. What it actually says is that the deity was living in Christ. PS. You are also supposed to be a temple of the most High God and where the deity lives.

I have to ask, did you even read the verse?



Hmmm....... And? Since nobody in the New Testament said Jesus fulfilled this verse, I'm left to wonder what fantasies you ascribe to it.




The word became flesh. Amen. The person the word became is named Jesus and is the son of God. Straight up unitarian teaching. Sons are not their fathers, and fathers are not their sons.




And? The apostles were "one" in the same way Jesus and his father were one (John 17:22). Do you have some sort of fantasy regarding this verse?




Joseph named this child . . . drum roll please .... "Jesus" not "Immanuel".

I have to ask, did you miss the entire new testament where the name of our Lord and Savior is repeated over and over and it is "Jesus", not "Immanuel?



What fantasies do you ascribe to this verse?



The first verse straight up says that Jesus is a creation, the image of God. See Gen 1 for more information on the relationship to the image of God to God.

I have to ask, did you even read the passage?




So according to you Jesus is equal to God according to this verse. Which of course means that Jesus is not God.

Of course Paul's conclusion directly contradicts the fantasy of the translators here,

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place​

and gave him the name that is above every name,​

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,​

in heaven and on earth and under the earth,​

11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,​

to the glory of God the Father.​

It appears that Unitarians agree entirely with Paul's conclusion, that God elevated Jesus and gave Jesus a name above every name (rather than Mary and Joseph), whereas Trinitarians think Jesus was equal to God in his mortal state and the name Jesus is the name that is above every name.



(I wonder if any part of the OP will be addressed in this thread).

Indeed, Jesus IS the name ABOVE every name.

 

[johnny guitar]

Trinitarianism . . . The complete inability to address anything in the OP.



Oh no. A oneness Pentecostal must be posting as this reading is straight up Sabellianism. Did you even read the verse?



This verse is Unitarianism in a nutshell. For us there is one God. And also there is somebody who is not the one God that is important also, he's the one lord, he is the Christ.

I have to ask, did you even read the verse?




In Christ is the deity. Christ isn't the deity. What it actually says is that the deity was living in Christ. PS. You are also supposed to be a temple of the most High God and where the deity lives.

I have to ask, did you even read the verse?



Hmmm....... And? Since nobody in the New Testament said Jesus fulfilled this verse, I'm left to wonder what fantasies you ascribe to it.




The word became flesh. Amen. The person the word became is named Jesus and is the son of God. Straight up unitarian teaching. Sons are not their fathers, and fathers are not their sons.




And? The apostles were "one" in the same way Jesus and his father were one (John 17:22). Do you have some sort of fantasy regarding this verse?




Joseph named this child . . . drum roll please .... "Jesus" not "Immanuel".

I have to ask, did you miss the entire new testament where the name of our Lord and Savior is repeated over and over and it is "Jesus", not "Immanuel?



What fantasies do you ascribe to this verse?



The first verse straight up says that Jesus is a creation, the image of God. See Gen 1 for more information on the relationship to the image of God to God.

I have to ask, did you even read the passage?




So according to you Jesus is equal to God according to this verse. Which of course means that Jesus is not God.

Of course Paul's conclusion directly contradicts the fantasy of the translators here,

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place​

and gave him the name that is above every name,​

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,​

in heaven and on earth and under the earth,​

11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,​

to the glory of God the Father.​

It appears that Unitarians agree entirely with Paul's conclusion, that God elevated Jesus and gave Jesus a name above every name (rather than Mary and Joseph), whereas Trinitarians think Jesus was equal to God in his mortal state and the name Jesus is the name that is above every name.



(I wonder if any part of the OP will be addressed in this thread).

The apostles are NOT one as The Son and Father are in John 10:30.

 

[Runningman]

And the fullness of The Godhead dwells in ONE Person BODILY: Jesus Christ.

Except here:

Ephesians 3
19of the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

and here...

Ephesians 4
6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

 

[johnny guitar]

Except here:

Ephesians 3
19of the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

and here...

Ephesians 4
6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

NOTHING in these passages about ALL the fullness of The GODHEAD dwelling in anyone.

 

[Stephen]

The apostles are NOT one as The Son and Father are in John 10:30.

jonny sas the apostles are NOT one as the son and the father are.

Jesus says "that they may be one as we are one" (John 17:22)

I'm going to go with Jesus on the matter, as I suggest he may be better acquainted with the matter than you are.

Indeed, Jesus IS the name ABOVE every name.

Well now that you've arrived at the truth that Jesus was named . . . "Jesus" and not "Immanuel", there is some sort of progress up the learning curve.

However Jesus is the name Mary and Joseph gave to the child.

God gave the exalted man another name, THE name above every name. The fact that somebody (God or man) gave the man a name that was above every name, means he didn't possess the name above every name before that point in time.



jonny, how can you get so much wrong with so few words?

 

[Runningman]

NOTHING in these passages about ALL the fullness of The GODHEAD dwelling in anyone.

Ephesians 3
19of the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

 

[johnny guitar]

jonny sas the apostles are NOT one as the son and the father are.

Jesus says "that they may be one as we are one" (John 17:22)

I'm going to go with Jesus on the matter, as I suggest he may be better acquainted with the matter than you are.



Well now that you've arrived at the truth that Jesus was named . . . "Jesus" and not "Immanuel", there is some sort of progress up the learning curve.

However Jesus is the name Mary and Joseph gave to the child.

God gave the exalted man another name, THE name above every name. The fact that somebody (God or man) gave the man a name that was above every name, means he didn't possess the name above every name before that point in time.



jonny, how can you get so much wrong with so few words?

Jesus was NOT named Emmanuel; He is CALLED Emmanuel.
Phil. 2:6-10 tells us why Jesus is given the name ABOVE every name.

 

[Runningman]

Jesus was NOT named Emmanuel; He is CALLED Emmanuel.
Phil. 2:6-10 tells us why Jesus is given the name ABOVE every name.

Being given a name follows he didn’t have the name until it was given to him. Being given a name is the very definition of being named. In English it’s acceptable to say he was named.

 

[johnny guitar]

Being given a name follows he didn’t have the name until it was given to him. Being given a name is the very definition of being named. In English it’s acceptable to say he was named.

Jesus is CALLED Emmanuel for ONE reason ONLY. He is God WITH US.

 

[Runningman]

Jesus is CALLED Emmanuel for ONE reason ONLY. He is God WITH US.

The name Immanuel signifies that God's presence and favor would be with the people through the Messiah. It does not mean that the Messiah is God himself. Hence why only the definition of the name Immanuel is "God with us." If I am named Immanuel, it doesn't make me God. Make sense?

Isaiah 7:14-15 says Immanuel is a human who needed time to learn the difference between good and evil. God's nature does not require Him to need time to learn the difference between good and evil.

 

[johnny guitar]

The name Immanuel signifies that God's presence and favor would be with the people through the Messiah. It does not mean that the Messiah is God himself. Hence why only the definition of the name Immanuel is "God with us." If I am named Immanuel, it doesn't make me God. Make sense?

Isaiah 7:14-15 says Immanuel is a human who needed time to learn the difference between good and evil. God's nature does not require Him to need time to learn the difference between good and evil.

If God says someone will be called Emmanuel, He is God WITH US.