Open carry: how many guns is too many?

[vibise]

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How many people that do not drive are in auto accidents

My grandmother for one.

 

[christ_undivided]

A lot higher than the ratio of gun non-owners to mass shootings.

Voter fraud is a lot higher among those who vote than those who don't vote.

 

[christ_undivided]

Do you have the right to swing your arm?

Guns don't have arms.

 

[vibise]

Don't feel the need to.



Suspicious - yes.
Panic? No.
Panic is irrational.

Given reports that mass murderers dress in body armor and use AR-15s, it is NOT irrational to flee when such a person enters a bakery or barbershop. And foolish to stick around.

 

[christ_undivided]

?

Mass shootings are not accidents.

Correct. Which why we should be able to protect ourselves with guns.

 

[vibise]

Voter fraud is a lot higher among those who vote than those who don't vote.

So you agree with eightcrackers point!

 

[christ_undivided]

Given reports that mass murderers dress in body armor and use AR-15s, it is NOT irrational to flee when such a person enters a bakery or barbershop. And foolish to stick around.

Military personnel do it all the time.

 

[Eightcrackers]

Voter fraud is a lot higher among those who vote than those who don't vote.

Your point?

 

[christ_undivided]

So you agree with eightcrackers point!

No. Just giving a counter argument to the blanket application "they" is making.

 

[Eightcrackers]

Correct. Which why we should be able to protect ourselves with guns.

If nobody had guns, there would be no mass shootings, and nothing to protect yourself from.

"We have to have guns because all the bad guys have guns"

is a poor defence of the Second Amendment... why do all the bad guys have guns...?

 

[vibise]

Correct. Which why we should be able to protect ourselves with guns.

Your risk of encountering a mass murderer are probably lower than being hit by lightning.

Untrained civilians using guns when faced with a criminal can be dangerous. Like the case of the man who tried to shoot a fleeing robber, missed him, but killed a little girl sitting in a car with her father.

 

[christ_undivided]

Your point?

Voter fraud exists at a higher ratio to voter count than gun owner to mass shootings.

 

[glenlogie]

If nobdoy had guns, there would be no mass shootings, and nothing to protect yourself from.

"We have to have guns because all the bad guys have guns"

is a poor defence of the Second Amendment... why do all the bad guys have guns...?

It is totally foolish to think that guns will one day vanish from the earth

 

[vibise]

No. Just giving a counter argument to the blanket application "they" is making.

Your "counter" argument reinforces his point that the people who engage in an activity (gun owners, voters) are the ones who can abuse it.

 

[Eightcrackers]

Military personnel do it all the time.

They have received training, and carry guns occupationally.

Random "me want shooty-bang" citizens, do neither.

 

[glenlogie]

Your risk of encountering a mass murderer are probably lower than being hit by lightning.

Untrained civilians using guns when faced with a criminal can be dangerous. Like the case of the man who tried to shoot a fleeing robber, missed him, but killed a little girl sitting in a car with her father.

So you think that people should live in fear of criminals

 

[christ_undivided]

If nobdoy had guns, there would be no mass shootings, and nothing to protect yourself from.

You can't eliminate guns. I bet you don't even know that a person can manufacture their own firearms. They don't have to buy them....... As long as anyone has a gun, I demand one myself.

"We have to have guns because all the bad guys have guns"

You must ban guns because bad guys have guns. What is the difference in the arguments?

 

[Eightcrackers]

It is totally foolish to think that guns will one day vanish from the earth

It is totally foolish to think that the US's Second Amendment makes it safer, when the homicide rate is several times higher than in civilized countries where firearms are not available to anybody that wants them.

 

[glenlogie]

Your "counter" argument reinforces his point that the people who engage in an activity (gun owners, voters) are the ones who can abuse it.

So vibise continues to think that everyone who disagrees with her are evil people

 

[vibise]

Voter fraud exists at a higher ratio to voter count than gun owner to mass shootings.

Both are extremely small. But the tiny amount of voter fraud does not affect election outcomes, whereas mass shootings results in dead and injured people, a very serious consequence.