Norweigen Shipping Company First to Ban Electric Cars on Ferries

[Authentic Nouveau]

A while back I spent much time reading academic physics journals and texts concerning this... and the view with most weight was that fluctuations of energy, climate, etc... have as main cause the sun....

80% of the greenhouse gases influence is water vapor.

Sunshine cause ocean and land water evaporation.

Cloud cover influences temps. No way to collect cloud cover data in the historical past.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Yes, but the pollution we release into the air is what traps the heat of the sun.

In your uneducated head, do argue water vapor is pollution?


We are told CH4 has a powerful greenhouse effect. The parts per billion in the atmosphere are incredibly small.

Number one source of human generated methane is rice paddys. Go scold China.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

I have a Toyota Tacoma(LOVE IT). But killing me on gas. Im thinking of trading it for a hybrid or diesel.

You can pay 170.9 per liter or ride your bike.

Our gasoline is $2.70 a gallon.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Yeah, and petroleum has never resulted in a fire…

You need to read up on "internal combustion engines"

You are just not firing on all cylinders.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Revealed: how US transition to electric cars threatens environmental havoc

By 2050 electric vehicles could require huge amounts of lithium for their batteries, causing damaging expansions of mining

www.theguardian.com

oops...

Its an opinion piece. it's not based on real numbers. Elites pay these people to push their agenda.

Even if half the country goes electric. It still cuts the demand for oil greatly and in theory should reduce energy costs.

 

[wiseones2cents]

In your uneducated head, do argue water vapor is pollution?

Yawn we are talking about all the harmful bi-products of burning fossil fuels that stay in the atmosphere.

We are told CH4 has a powerful greenhouse effect. The parts per billion in the atmosphere are incredibly small.

Number one source of human generated methane is rice paddys. Go scold China.

I believe methane and CO2 are natural gases in the atmosphere. The problem is if they overtake oxygen it would not be good for our health.

Methane concentration has increased as has CO2. The question is! What is causing it?

Methane - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Earth's atmospheric methane concentration has increased by about 150% since 1750, and it accounts for 20% of the total radiative forcing from all of the long-lived and globally mixed greenhouse gases

Anyways, as I keep repeating and your not understanding is that there are other bi-products of burning fossil fuels other than methane and CO2, that stay MUCH longer in the atmosphere and conduct alot more heat.

 

[e v e 21]

Its an opinion piece. it's not based on real numbers. Elites pay these people to push their agenda.

Even if half the country goes electric. It still cuts the demand for oil greatly and in theory should reduce energy costs.

There is no reliable way to put a fire out once it starts on these batteries. What about disposing of them.

Lithium is also not renewable.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Yawn we are talking about all the harmful bi-products of burning fossil fuels that stay in the atmosphere.

Just a reminder, your lack of education reflects a lack of understanding water vapor greenhouse gas effect.

 

[wiseones2cents]

There is no reliable way to put a fire out once it starts on these batteries. What about disposing of them.

Does it make the car explode like gasoline or propane?

Lithium is also not renewable.

Its good enough for now. Eventually there will be much better energy sources.

is there enough lithium in the world - Bing

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[wiseones2cents]

Just a reminder, your lack of education reflects a lack of understanding water vapor greenhouse gas effect.

Yawn. Your arguments are parrot like. Like a good little propagandist regurgitator. You keep repeating the same old things about CO2 and water vapour and I keep pointing out there are much more harmful gases involved which you conveniently chose to ignore. NEXT!

 

[wiseones2cents]

In other news. Tesla Stocks go up. Musk takes a page out of the book of fordism.....

'The right strategic poker move': Here's what Wall Street is saying about Tesla's 4th-quarter earnings report

Tesla said that since it lowered prices it has seen the strongest demand in its history, with orders running about twice the rate of production.

ca.finance.yahoo.com

Canada right now has increased the price of diesel, but apparently are going to build a mega diesel producing factory, using non fossil fuels. Sounds promising.

Looks like Canada is going all out in the green movement.


More news. The oil companies are saying they are working as fast as they can on transitioning to green energy. I dont buy it. If so they would allow China and other countries to give us cheap solar panels. The UK and America accused them of dumping. They dump everything else in America, why not solar panels? Simply because it's bad for the economy(the oil rich).

Bottom line. Capitalism restricts progress. Restricts a decent health care system, Restricts a decent pension system, Restricts a decent space program, Restricts research, restricts everything. If it's not profitable its not doable.....

 

[e v e 21]

There is no mythical 'renewable' source on this earth... everything that powers this earth comes from material resources.

---- Mining of one kind or another. For EVs, for gadgets. Even gadgets that would capture 'solar'.

Harrowing images of cobalt mines in Congo where kids dig for $2-a-day

A new series of images taken from inside cobalt mines in the Democratic Republic of Congo raise uncomfortable questions for American tech companies claiming to be 'clean'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[e v e 21]

^^^ it's a fantasy of the ego-mind to presume that electric cars use renewable energy.

Someone has to mine for the cobalt and the lithium.

"Magical thinking" won't change that.

 

[e v e 21]

To charge an EV requires Fossil fuels.

 

[Thistle]

Electric cars are the future. Most of the people against it are the people in the fossil fuel industry which employs MANY people. They are worried about their jobs first and the environment second.....

Truth is, electric cars have come a LONG way and it's only a matter of time before the replace gas cars. But then they will start to raise prices on electricity. That's how capitalism works.....

Does this mean you don't mind syncing to the bottom of the ocean because an electric car has destroyed the ship that you're on? At least that would be a principled position to take. You're going down with the ship in order to save mother Earth.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

There is no mythical 'renewable' source on this earth... everything that powers this earth comes from material resources.

---- Mining of one kind or another. For EVs, for gadgets. Even gadgets that would capture 'solar'.

Harrowing images of cobalt mines in Congo where kids dig for $2-a-day

A new series of images taken from inside cobalt mines in the Democratic Republic of Congo raise uncomfortable questions for American tech companies claiming to be 'clean'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

$2 per day and drop out of school.

While we chase unreliable and renewables sources driving up prices by hundreds of billions and these people have NO electricity,no safe drinking water.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

To charge an EV requires Fossil fuels.

To build an EV requires fossil fuels.
To pave a road requires a lot of fossil fuels.

To run a road grader on a dirt road requires fossil fuels.
To build a power gathering grid and distribution grid requires fossil fuels.
In America most new power lines and buried underground. Trenching requires fossil fuels.

The billions of dollars wasted on high speed rail to nowhere in California went to heavy fuel powered construction equipment.

 

[wiseones2cents]

There is no mythical 'renewable' source on this earth... everything that powers this earth comes from material resources.

---- Mining of one kind or another. For EVs, for gadgets. Even gadgets that would capture 'solar'.

Harrowing images of cobalt mines in Congo where kids dig for $2-a-day

A new series of images taken from inside cobalt mines in the Democratic Republic of Congo raise uncomfortable questions for American tech companies claiming to be 'clean'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yes I seen that photo and video. Thats capitalism at work!!!

There is lots of renewable energy, the Sun, the Wind, Geo Thermal, ect....You are not well informed.

 

[wiseones2cents]

^^^ it's a fantasy of the ego-mind to presume that electric cars use renewable energy.

Someone has to mine for the cobalt and the lithium.

"Magical thinking" won't change that.

It's still minimal compared to all the gases that are emitted from millions of cars and factories each day. Stop drinking the kool aid. It's spiked.lol

 

[wiseones2cents]

Does this mean you don't mind syncing to the bottom of the ocean because an electric car has destroyed the ship that you're on? At least that would be a principled position to take. You're going down with the ship in order to save mother Earth.

The Titanic a giant capitalist excursion also sank to the bottom of the ocean. Does this mean you wont go on a boat or cruise ship? Lots of people still do.