Every unbeliever, for all of his life, lives under God's condemnation, and the condemnation is not believing in the name of Jesus (Jn 3:18). 1 cor 12:3 tells me that the reason those people are not believing in the name of Jesus is, they are not indwelt by the Holy Spirit. It's clear to me, and to many others here, that you do not understand that.That has been revealed in scripture
Romans 10:8-17 (KJV)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Sorry no the receiving of the spirit does not precede faith
John 7:38-39 (KJV)
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Galatians 3:2 (KJV)
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Galatians 3:5 (KJV)
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Galatians 3:14 (KJV)
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Why is it Calvinism must attempt tp contradict what scripture shows to establish itself ?
OkYes, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the one God. People say three persons, which is not exactly stated in the Bible, but it is probably the best way so far I have heard to say it.
Yet that is exactly what you do. LolAgain faith is not mentioned
You have an argument from silence
Being made alive requires one have the Spirit
you can't have the spirit without faith
John 7:38-39 (ESV)
38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
Galatians 3:2 (ESV)
2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?
Galatians 3:5 (ESV)
5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith—
Galatians 3:14 (ESV)
14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
Ezek does not help you
Neither Ezek 36 or 37
You cannot interpret scripture in contradiction to itself
Sorry the issue is indwellingYa? And? Yet it is by the Spirit that causes us to believe. How do you, in all your wisdom, intend to work out this apparent contradiction? This I have to hear for entertainment purposes.
Which you do. One says it's BY the Spirit I obey God's commands. Yours says recieve the Spirit. Two different things. You simply conflate the two. You must for humanism to workSorry there is truth in your claim
Again faith is not mentioned
You have an argument from silence
Being made alive requires one have the Spirit
you can't have the spirit without faith
John 7:38-39 (ESV)
38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
Galatians 3:2 (ESV)
2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?
Galatians 3:5 (ESV)
5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith—
Galatians 3:14 (ESV)
14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
Ezek does not help you
Neither Ezek 36 or 37
You cannot interpret scripture in contradiction to itself
which is why you cannot address rebuttal
Irrelevant to Ezekiel 36. I don't have to be indwelling to be led by the Spirit.Sorry the issue is indwelling
One is not indwelt until one believes
Galatians 3:14 (KJV)
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
and faith comes through the word
Romans 10:14-17 (KJV)
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Can the Father be God if He is not Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent ?Yes, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the one God. People say three persons, which is not exactly stated in the Bible, but it is probably the best way so far I have heard to say it.
There is no synergy in YOU WILL be careful. Good to see you concede that God, the Spirit, is the CAUSE. Good job.
Which you do. One says it's BY the Spirit I obey God's commands. Yours says recieve the Spirit. Two different things. You simply conflate the two. You must for humanism to work
Probably Tom agrees with this, The Spirit can lead us even before we are indwelt, regenerated.Irrelevant to Ezekiel 36. I don't have to be indwelling to be led by the Spirit.
Ezekiel 36 speaks of the indwellingIrrelevant to Ezekiel 36. I don't have to be indwelling to be led by the Spirit.
Yet nothing about believing first. Wierd right. There is a differenceEzekiel 36 speaks of the indwelling
Ezekiel 36:27 (KJV)
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
thats indwelling
I agree with you.Probably Tom agrees with this, The Spirit can lead us even before we are indwelt, regenerated.
Other Calvinists do not agree that the Spirit can speak to you before you are regenerated.I agree with you
Except according to Ezekiel 36 I can't believe unless it's by the Spirit.Except we know from scripture that belief is first required
John 7:38-39 (KJV)
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Galatians 3:14 (KJV)
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Galatians 3:2 (KJV)
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Galatians 3:5 (KJV)
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
why is it your theology requires ignoring scripture ?
Sorry no Ezek 36 does not say thatExcept according to Ezekiel 36 I can't believe unless it's by the Spirit.
Sure does. Read it again.Sorry no Ezek 36 does not say that
1 John 3:23 says that God commands us to believe.Sure does. Read it again.
1 John 3:23
The carnal mind is enmity against God and is not subject to the command of God, neither can be Rom 8:71 John 3:23 says that God commands us to believe.
How does that prove that Ezekiel 36 teaches that i can only believe by the Spirit?
What I suggest you add into your understanding of how the carnal mind works is Rom 8:5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the fleshThe carnal mind is enmity against God and is not subject to the command of God, neither can be Rom 8:7
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
The word law is the word nomos which means:
anything established, anything received by usage, a custom, usage, law; in the Sept. very often for תּורָה, also for חֻקָּה, דָּת, etc. In the N. T. a command, law; and
So the carnal mind isnt subject to the command of God, and doesnt have the ability to be He cant obey the command to believe therefore.