SteveB
Well-known member
You're not paying attention.Saying 'listen to my wisdom or suffer' is just the repeated Appeal to Force logical fallacy that CARM specifically told Christians not to use because it is flawed. So it is dismissed.
I am sure you do not quake in your boots when a Hindu tells you that if you do not wise up and follow Ganesha you'll be in trouble, right? Why on Earth do you think doing the same to us will be different?
Maybe...just maybe...someday you'll realize your empty threats are no different than the Muslim telling you to follow Allah or suffer. Maybe.
Or not. Either way I'm having tacos tonight.
It's not listen to me or suffer.
It's,
This is what God is saying is necessary to know the truth.
You then have to decide whether or not you want to know the truth.
And then do what is necessary for you to know the truth for yourself.
The truth includes all the necessary elements, which include the previously explained dangers.
We're making sure that we give you the entire content which would allow you to make an informed decision about your eternity.
As there's good news and bad news regarding this issue, it'd be wrong to leave out the bad news portion.
Especially when God has explicitly stated that he wants you to know about it.
Eze 18:4 WEB Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine. The soul who sins, he shall die.
Eze 33:1-20 WEB 1 Yahweh’s word came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, speak to the children of your people, and tell them, ‘When I bring the sword on a land, and the people of the land take a man from among them, and set him for their watchman; 3 if, when he sees the sword come on the land, he blows the trumpet, and warns the people; 4 then whoever hears the sound of the trumpet, and doesn’t heed the warning, if the sword comes, and takes him away, his blood will be on his own head. 5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and didn’t take warning. His blood will be on him; whereas if he had heeded the warning, he would have delivered his soul. 6 But if the watchman sees the sword come, and doesn’t blow the trumpet, and the people aren’t warned, and the sword comes, and takes any person from among them; he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at the watchman’s hand.’ 7 “So you, son of man, I have set you a watchman to the house of Israel. Therefore hear the word from my mouth, and give them warnings from me. 8 When I tell the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you will surely die,’ and you don’t speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man will die in his iniquity, but I will require his blood at your hand. 9 Nevertheless, if you warn the wicked of his way to turn from it, and he doesn’t turn from his way; he will die in his iniquity, but you have delivered your soul. 10 “You, son of man, tell the house of Israel: ‘You say this, “Our transgressions and our sins are on us, and we pine away in them. How then can we live?”’ 11 Tell them, ‘“As I live,” says the Lord Yahweh, “I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why will you die, house of Israel?”’ 12 “You, son of man, tell the children of your people, ‘The righteousness of the righteous will not deliver him in the day of his disobedience. And as for the wickedness of the wicked, he will not fall by it in the day that he turns from his wickedness; neither will he who is righteous be able to live by it in the day that he sins. 13 When I tell the righteous that he will surely live; if he trusts in his righteousness, and commits iniquity, none of his righteous deeds will be remembered; but he will die in his iniquity that he has committed. 14 Again, when I say to the wicked, “You will surely die;” if he turns from his sin, and does that which is lawful and right; 15 if the wicked restore the pledge, give again that which he had taken by robbery, walk in the statutes of life, committing no iniquity; he will surely live. He will not die. 16 None of his sins that he has committed will be remembered against him. He has done that which is lawful and right. He will surely live. 17 “‘Yet the children of your people say, “The way of the Lord is not fair;” but as for them, their way is not fair. 18 When the righteous turns from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, he will even die therein. 19 When the wicked turns from his wickedness, and does that which is lawful and right, he will live by it. 20 Yet you say, “The way of the Lord is not fair.” House of Israel, I will judge every one of you after his ways.’”
If you don't actually want to know these things, do you really think that you are going to get off Scot-free without any responsibility or culpability for your life?
