Phrased that way, the answer can only be God Determined every Action...The fact that God Foreknows All Things is proof that All Things have already been Determined by something…
…the only thing left to do now is justify what that THING is before anything was created…
Can you justify your answer?
CCP
ExcellentThe fact that God Foreknows All Things is proof that All Things have already been Determined by something…
…the only thing left to do now is justify what that THING is before anything was created…
Can you justify your answer?
CCP
Right, it's called presupposition or begging the question.Phrased that way, the answer can only be God Determined every Action...
Tell that to the OP...Right, it's called presupposition or begging the question.
What question is it begging?Right, it's called presupposition or begging the question.
It assumes meticulous determination as @ReverendRV stated.What question is it begging?
Phrased that way, the answer can only be God Determined every Action...
Well there are two options as it pertains to God's foreknowledge. Either He knows because He determined the future or He knows by simple observation.I assumes meticulous determination as @ReverendRV stated.
Except that the OP states 'proves'; therefore, the OP begs the question.Well there are two options as it pertains to God's foreknowledge. Either He knows because He determined the future or He knows by simple observation.
Do you disagree if something is foreknown it by necessity was determined by something. I don't think that question begging anything.Except that the OP states 'proves'; therefore, the OP begs the question.
The fact that God Foreknows All Things is proof that All Things have already been Determined by something…
…the only thing left to do now is justify what that THING is before anything was created…
Can you justify your answer?
CCP
If God foreknows that I will always reject TULIP, does not necessitate that God meticulously determined me to always reject TULIP.Do you disagree if something is foreknown it by necessity was determined by something.
If God foreknows that I will always reject TULIP,
does not necessitate that God meticulously determined me to always reject TULIP.
God's foreknowedge doesn't always follow God's intent.
God is often displeased, proving libertarianism.
God's foreknowledge of what I would determine in the future....
So what was that THING that "meticulously determined you to always reject TULIP"...
...before anything was created?
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Foreknowledge is not proof that all things are determined or predestined. Foreknowledge simply requires predestination. It's a logical necessity.The fact that God Foreknows All Things is proof that All Things have already been Determined by something…
For anything to exist requires existence, and existence must necessarily be eternal with no beginning or end.
…the only thing left to do now is justify what that THING is before anything was created…
It's a logical necessity, and to claim otherwise leads to violations of the law of non-contradiction.
Can you justify your answer?
CCP
God's foreknowledge of what I would determine in the future.
Then why does he "allow" it in your view?
Was God "forced" to "allow" it in your view?
See even your view can't escape a level of "God's intent".
Psa 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
Psa 115:3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
Psa 135:6 Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.
Isa 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:
The fact that God's outeractions of Planning, Purposing, and determining all things includes his own interactions into his story, for a purpose, does not prove "libertarian" actions on man's part.
Your negative philosophy can not positivly justify your assumption...
Positively justify your claim please.
I'm not convinced that God must determine the future. God is the cause or origin of a determined future, but I don't see why it would necessarily follow that God must have been the one to determine the future.Well there are two options as it pertains to God's foreknowledge. Either He knows because He determined the future or He knows by simple observation.
LolGod's foreknowledge of what I would determine in the future.