Yes, and Jesus then gave that power given to Him by God to the Apostles. And then the Apostles gave that same power to those who succeeded them. This is not rocket science my friend, just read (the Scriptures) and believe!
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the rcc doesn't teach what He told the apostles to teach. the rcc is a failure on that!
the rcc has no God given authority to do so... it lies if/when it says it does.
what it teaches isn't of Him.
Nondenom40
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Where? Its not in these verses. Show us where Jesus says 'here is my power, i'm giving it to you'. This is your claim.
no, it isn't. you only need to compare what is taught in scripture with what the rcc teaches. it becomes very obvious to those who do know His word, that the rcc isn't teaching His word.
Are you serious? He did this a couple of times like when He breathed on them the Holy Spirit and gave them the power to forgive sins, like when He gave them the power to bind and loose things, like when He gave them the power to take on evil, to heal. That's a lot of power right there.
where did He teach them to pray to humans? where did He teach them that water baptism saves? that Mary is sinless or EV or giver of grace? where did He teach them to hear confessions of others? where did He teach them that they could change what He taught them? or make up more restrictions to burden others with?
And the poster ignores the answer and so asks them again and again. One thing we can be sure about is that it is the RCC that makes false claims and its fruit prove that those claims are false. The answer will not change it is only the bad tree that produces bad fruit. If it produces bad fruit and all can see the bad fruit then it cannot be what it claims because it is the bad tree.
You are so right. Where did He give approval to ignore scriptures, where did He he say add whatever you like to scriptures, go as far beyond scripture as you like, please take away from my word and ignore anything you don't like.
Does this mean they are omnipotent? I mean that is what His power actually is.
catholics don't know what He gave them. they demonstrate here every day that they have no idea what He said or what the apostles taught. they also have no idea how the HS works in the life of a believer.
hopefully you will sometime while still breathing in this life. there are no after this life 2nd chances.
He gives that to believers, not those who follow false leaders / teachings.
so even individual catholics are power hungry. if that's what you desire then He isn't the desire of your heart.
leonard03782
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ACTS 7:
51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
therefore I will do this:
MARK 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
the very verse going thru my mind as I typed my last post a few minutes ago! the dust has gotten very thick.
Rome will suffer the same or worse judgment.
romishpopishorganist
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I ask this question becasue I get no meaningful or substantive interaction with it. I am hoping that someone will interact with the question and give a meaningful and substantive reply.
JoeT
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I haven't heard a meaningful replay. Why don't you educate us with something having a little more meat than opinion.
JoeT
Oh the problems is you do get meaningful and substantive interaction but it (oh how do you put it) goes over your head. Why would anyone bother, you ignore their answers and you have very good responses which maybe you didn't read.
romishpopishorganist
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But this is exactly what Catholics think of the Protestants on this site.
So this gets us nowhere does it?
you get answered biblically. that's what you don't like.
agreeing with you would not be meaningful or substantive.
thx for your example of how catholics misunderstand and purposely mutilate the truth of scripture to support the lies of their false teachers.
he sure gets around!