johnny guitar
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More trash. NO ONE takes your new age garbage seriously.
Christ Is The Holy Spirit.
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johnny guitar
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Read your nonsense??? I think NOT.
Photine
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But you contradict Paul.
johnny guitar
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And you Christ.
I totally agree with you totally, He is not your head, mind, at all.
His ways always is nonsense for those who reject Him in His ways and go withtout His same head of mind. These as yourself make up your own rules for your own beliefs for the god you have created in your image.
Jesus had a tererablt time Wirth the same as you, trying to convince them that he had the ways to the Father in whom these reject even today to bw like him and walk as He walks in His same light as Jesus and others we read of received from God Himself.
Yes, the ways of God is always trash for religious minds. These as yourself had Jesus crucified for the very same blaspheme as you accuse me of no different at all.
A few find has His ways. And actually it is very old garbage for you for Adam was the first to become like God to know this difference, read Gen 3;22 for confirmation, and all after Adam who received from God were like Him and all today who has seen him are like hIm. And when, or if you ever see Him as He is ye shall be like Him as well, 1 John 3. Even Jesus had to go through that knowledge in Matt 3:16.
But that isn't going to happen in you is it?
That is because you cant relate to being a son of God yourself is all.
Photine
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Not at all. I believe all Scriptures unlike you!
johnny guitar
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But deny the very words of Christ in Luke 24:36-43.
Case closed and you are exposed.
Photine
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1 Cor 15:45 is Scripture.
johnny guitar
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So is Luke 24:36-43.
You didn't manifest in flesh as you had no choice but Yahuah had that choise to manifest in flesh. If you don't see the difference, your religion is in vain.
Messiah is The Head of every man and man is the head of his wife. Man and his wife represents Messiah and His Assembly/Church.
See you got to come out of your heathenish thinking.
God is the Head and Messiah I's His Body. Messiah is The Head and His Assembly/Church Is His Body. Image of Man.
Yes it's scripture! The soul is the animating the body. The first man was not spiritual but Earthy. The 2nd Man was Yahuah from heaven taking the role of the Captain of salvation Who is able to save all these who are partskers of new creation. Yahusha Messiah is able to give eternal life to those who are in Him.
That's your devlish doctrine of multi-personal God. First of all I don't believe the original name of Messiah was Jesus and neither His title Christ - John 1:41. He was born a Jew and no Jew can have a Greco-Roman Name Jesus nor title Christ. This is pure Greco-Roman cultural mythology. The WORD was WITH God and not beside God. The WORD is equal WITH God and not beside God. The WORD is the Divine Order of creation and salvation. Creation is interwined with salvation - Gen 2:1-3 on Day 1 of Genesis. God is invisible Spirit and thus we have The WORD in created realm.
Spoken in the Son. Not God The Father spoke by His Son. Read the Greek properly. The Father doesn't speak but spoken in The Son (not by the Son). It's Israel who is the firstborn son - Exod 4:22. The Monogenes Son represents Israel. The Firstborn in Hebrew heritage inherits all the blessings of the father. Since Israel was in flesh couldn't inherit spiritual heavenly blessings and there need to be a Mediator Who has heavenly transcripted Body such as Yahusha Messiah in Whom there has to be reconciliation between God and man. We don't have to look at the Father outside of Yahusha Messiah but in Himself. Carnal people/unregenerate will look for The Father outside of Yahusha Messiah, The Son of God, The Messiah.
If Yahuah created everything why do you look for another Person? You can't reach the One Who is in unapproachable Light. The One Who is in unapproachable Light was externalised as the means of salvation - Gen 1:3; 1Cor 4:6.
If The Son is Brightness of invisible God's glory then you have to understand that outside of The Son is darkness. There ain't anyone outside of Him Who is called God. Not express image of the Person but Substance. KJV wrongly interpretes God (Father ) as a Person. He is the ivery image of the invisible substance of God. It was essential because otherwise God would have been unknown. It's The Son Who reveals The Father. Without The Son there cannot be a Father or vice versa. These titles are salvific in nature but not two Persons.
Today is the day of salvation - which is in time. There were no Father or The Son before creation interwined with salvation but only God. The diversification of God is falsely called as Trinity/Binity.
The Firstborn has Hebraic significance as He is appointed as an Heir and His elect as joint-heirs with Him. Israel after the flesh couldn't inherit anything from spiritual realm of God including salvation. There needed to be a Mediator Who is Yahuah filling that Room. No creature qualifies. He must fulfill Himself.
it's the quotation taken by the author of Hebrews from the OT and applied to Yahuah manifested in flesh - not as a 2nd Person. Everything was created in Him, for Him and Through Him
Man was created in the image of God after the One Who would manifest as The Son of God
Christianity is a religion derived after Greco-Roman culture - a mythology which has no roots in scriptures. It's like Israel of old going after Baal worship which is mis-representation of God.
Isaiah defines Who is called as The Everlasting Father. Father ain't another Person in Godhead:
John 14:9 Yeshua said to him, “Have I been with you all this time, and still you do not know me, Philipus? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father?’
in Bodily form He is equal WITH God (Father). But He didn't hold on to this reputation for the very mission He came to accomplish.
There is no one equal to God (Trinity defies this). But Yahusha Messiah is equal WITH God which shows He is not a distinct Person in Godhead but the same God diversified as The Father and The Son for salvation of His elect
johnny guitar
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Yes, Christ is the Head of His Church, which is His Body.
johnny guitar
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Christ is The AUTHOR of our salvation, The ONLY Savior.
That's your devlish doctrine of multi-personal God. First of all I don't believe the original name of Messiah was Jesus and neither His title Christ - John 1:41. He was born a Jew and no Jew can have a Greco-Roman Name Jesus nor title Christ. This is pure Greco-Roman cultural mythology. The WORD was WITH God and not beside God. The WORD is equal WITH God and not beside God. The WORD is the Divine Order of creation and salvation. Creation is interwined with salvation - Gen 2:1-3 on Day 1 of Genesis. God is invisible Spirit and thus we have The WORD in created realm.
Spoken in the Son. Not God The Father spoke by His Son. Read the Greek properly. The Father doesn't speak but spoken in The Son (not by the Son). It's Israel who is the firstborn son - Exod 4:22. The Monogenes Son represents Israel. The Firstborn in Hebrew heritage inherits all the blessings of the father. Since Israel was in flesh couldn't inherit spiritual heavenly blessings and there need to be a Mediator Who has heavenly transcripted Body such as Yahusha Messiah in Whom there has to be reconciliation between God and man. We don't have to look at the Father outside of Yahusha Messiah but in Himself. Carnal people/unregenerate will look for The Father outside of Yahusha Messiah, The Son of God, The Messiah.
If Yahuah created everything why do you look for another Person? You can't reach the One Who is in unapproachable Light. The One Who is in unapproachable Light was externalised as the means of salvation - Gen 1:3; 1Cor 4:6.
If The Son is Brightness of invisible God's glory then you have to understand that outside of The Son is darkness. There ain't anyone outside of Him Who is called God. Not express image of the Person but Substance. KJV wrongly interpretes God (Father ) as a Person. He is the ivery image of the invisible substance of God. It was essential because otherwise God would have been unknown. It's The Son Who reveals The Father. Without The Son there cannot be a Father or vice versa. These titles are salvific in nature but not two Persons.
Today is the day of salvation - which is in time. There were no Father or The Son before creation interwined with salvation but only God. The diversification of God is falsely called as Trinity/Binity.
The Firstborn has Hebraic significance as He is appointed as an Heir and His elect as joint-heirs with Him. Israel after the flesh couldn't inherit anything from spiritual realm of God including salvation. There needed to be a Mediator Who is Yahuah filling that Room. No creature qualifies. He must fulfill Himself.
it's the quotation taken by the author of Hebrews from the OT and applied to Yahuah manifested in flesh - not as a 2nd Person. Everything was created in Him, for Him and Through Him
Man was created in the image of God after the One Who would manifest as The Son of God
Christianity is a religion derived after Greco-Roman culture - a mythology which has no roots in scriptures. It's like Israel of old going after Baal worship which is mis-representation of God.
Isaiah defines Who is called as The Everlasting Father. Father ain't another Person in Godhead:
I do see the difference because God came to me just as He did in Jesus no different at all, and opened up who He is and all of His heaven in me just as He did in Adam in Gen 3:22, and in Abraham, and in Moses, and in Jesus in Matt 3;16, and 120 in an upper room and others who did recieve Gods same disposition of mind, His Spirit.
Perhaps it isn't I who cant see that difference? He hasn't come you as he has all of these and all today who has received Him, has He?
Here is what Jesus had to say about who he was in the Father and who his Father was who sent him, just as He sends us all who received the same from Him as Jesus did.
John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.